<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/xsl/rss2html.xsl" type="text/xsl" media="screen"?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/scripts/wpcss/wiki/get-fisa-right/skin/cerulean/rss" type="text/css" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"><channel><title>Get FISA Right - Recently Updated Pages</title><link>http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/pageSearch/updated</link><description>Recently Updated Pages on http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com</description><language>en-us</language><webMaster>info@wetpaint.com</webMaster><pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:36:10 CST</pubDate><lastBuildDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:36:10 CST</lastBuildDate><generator>wetpaint.com</generator><ttl>60</ttl><image><title>Get FISA Right</title><url>http://www.wetpaint.com/img/logo.gif</url><link>http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com</link><description>One of the homes of the Get FISA Right network, along with getfisaright.net, getfisaright.wordpress.com, and the my.barackobama.com group &quot;President Obama - Please, No Telecom Immunity and Get FISA Right&quot;.  </description></image><item><title>Statistics</title><link>http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Statistics</link><author>Hwaisbren</author><guid isPermaLink="false">http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Statistics</guid><pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:36:10 CST</pubDate><description>&lt;br&gt;&lt;div align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;bottom&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; class=&quot;WPC-edit-style-none WPC-edit-border-none WPC-edit-styleData-color1=%23ebebeb&amp;color2=%23c7c7c7&quot; width=&quot;100%&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;11%&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td bgcolor=&quot;#a8f7c8&quot; class=&quot;WPC-edit-custom-bgColor&quot; width=&quot;74%&quot;&gt;Current statistics on some interesting measurements, and historical statistics. &lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Statistics+from+June+26-30&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;Statistics from June 26-30&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Statistics+from+June+30-July+2&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;Statistics from June 30-July 2&lt;/a&gt; show our early growth last summer. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;14%&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;bottom&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; 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class=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;14%&quot;&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;66&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;center&quot; class=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;14%&quot;&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;110&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;center&quot; class=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;14%&quot;&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;85/33&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;center&quot; class=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;14%&quot;&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;515&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;* as reported by &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://wthashtag.com/Patriotact&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Wthashtag&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Historical statistics: number of members on myBO&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;br&gt;For our first week, this was the most important number to track. The growth was consistenly over 40%/day, sometimes over 100%/day, until July 3, when the combination of the holiday weekend and email listserv problems slowed it substantially. We resumed growing by 1,000-2,000 people per day after the long weekend. Somewhere around1,000 and 2,000 members left the group on Wednesday, July 9, during and after the FISA vote.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;Number of members (as reported by my.barackobama.com) &lt;/i&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#00ff00&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Methodology:&lt;br&gt;&lt;/font&gt;  &lt;ul&gt;  &lt;li&gt;  &lt;font color=&quot;#00ff00&quot;&gt;Numbers since June 30, 9 a.m., are as reported by my.barackobama.com from &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#00ff00&quot;&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://my.barackobama.com/page/group?q=get+fisa+right&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;this page&lt;/a&gt;, which gives a member count for the group&lt;/font&gt;   &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;  &lt;font color=&quot;#00ff00&quot;&gt;Earlier numbers are estimates based on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Statistics+from+June+26-30&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;statistics on early growth&lt;/a&gt; described here.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#00ff00&quot;&gt;  &lt;br&gt;&lt;/font&gt;See &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://obamaletdownwatch.wordpress.com/2008/06/29/anti-fisa-bill-group-on-mybarackobamacom-reaches-2200-members/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Anti FISA bill group on my.barackobama.com reaches 2200 members &lt;/a&gt;by John Joseph Bachir on &lt;i&gt;Obama Letdown Watch&lt;/i&gt; for more on the early growth of the group. &lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;  &lt;table align=&quot;bottom&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; class=&quot;WPC-edit-border-none&quot; width=&quot;100%&quot;&gt;  &lt;tbody&gt;  &lt;tr&gt;  &lt;td align=&quot;middle&quot; width=&quot;10%&quot;&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Date&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td align=&quot;middle&quot; width=&quot;12%&quot;&gt;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://my.barackobama.com/page/group?q=get+fisa+right&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Members&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt;(as of noon, EDT)&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td align=&quot;middle&quot; width=&quot;12%&quot;&gt;  &lt;b&gt;% change in the last day&lt;br&gt;(approximate)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td width=&quot;4%&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td width=&quot;62%&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;  &lt;tr&gt;  &lt;td width=&quot;10%&quot;&gt;  6/26&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td align=&quot;right&quot; width=&quot;12%&quot;&gt;  less than 200?&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td align=&quot;right&quot; width=&quot;12%&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td width=&quot;4%&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td width=&quot;62%&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;  &lt;tr&gt;  &lt;td width=&quot;10%&quot;&gt;  6/27&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td align=&quot;right&quot; width=&quot;12%&quot;&gt;  roughly 400&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td align=&quot;right&quot; width=&quot;12%&quot;&gt;  100%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td width=&quot;4%&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td width=&quot;62%&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;  &lt;tr&gt;  &lt;td width=&quot;10%&quot;&gt;  6/28&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td align=&quot;right&quot; width=&quot;12%&quot;&gt;  around 1500&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td align=&quot;right&quot; width=&quot;12%&quot;&gt;  375%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td width=&quot;4%&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td width=&quot;62%&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;  &lt;tr&gt;  &lt;td&gt;  6/29&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;  around 2100&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;  40%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;  &lt;tr&gt;  &lt;td&gt;  6/30&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;  4291&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;  100%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;  &lt;tr&gt;  &lt;td&gt;  7/1&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;  7468&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;  75%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;  &lt;tr&gt;  &lt;td&gt;  7/2&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;  10110&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;  35%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;Additional numbers (not necessarily at noon):&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;  &lt;blockquote&gt;  &lt;ul&gt;  &lt;li&gt;  &lt;font size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#ff0000&quot;&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#333333&quot;&gt;July 3: &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#ff0000&quot; size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#333333&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Statistics&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;16,000+ members&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, #1 Largest Group on myBO!&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;   &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;  &lt;font size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#ff0000&quot;&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#333333&quot;&gt;July 6: 19,000+ members&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/font&gt;   &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;  &lt;font size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#ff0000&quot;&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#333333&quot;&gt;July 7: 20,000+ members&lt;br&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/font&gt;  &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;  &lt;font size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#ff0000&quot;&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#333333&quot;&gt;July 8: 22,000+ &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#333333&quot;&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#ff0000&quot;&gt;We&amp;#39;re #1!!!&lt;/font&gt; Because of You! &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#333333&quot;&gt;(&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#333333&quot;&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://my.barackobama.com/page/group?show=members&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;myBO&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#ff0000&quot;&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#333333&quot;&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://my.barackobama.com/page/group?show=members&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; Top Ten List&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;  &lt;table align=&quot;bottom&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; class=&quot;WPC-edit-style-none WPC-edit-border-none WPC-edit-styleData-color1=%23ebebeb&amp;color2=%23c7c7c7&quot; width=&quot;100%&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td bgcolor=&quot;#a8f7c8&quot; class=&quot;WPC-edit-custom-bgColor&quot; width=&quot;74%&quot;&gt;For other snapshots, please also see &lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Statistics+from+July+11-August+4&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;Statistics from July 11-August 4&lt;/a&gt;, the first week of &lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Statistics+for+YouTube+video+week+1&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;statistics on the &amp;quot;Don&amp;#39;t let our Constitution die&amp;quot; video&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Statistics+from+August+2008&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;Statistics from August 2008&lt;/a&gt;., and &lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Statistics+from+November%2FDecember+2008&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;Statistics from November/December 2008&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;14%&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;  &lt;blockquote&gt;  &lt;br&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;hr size=&quot;1&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;</description></item><item><title>December 15 organizing call key takeaways notes</title><link>http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/December+15+organizing+call+key+takeaways+notes</link><author>Hwaisbren</author><guid isPermaLink="false">http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/December+15+organizing+call+key+takeaways+notes</guid><pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:31:23 CST</pubDate><description>&lt;br&gt;Key takeaways notes from &lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/December+15+Organizing+Call&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;Dec 15 organizing call&lt;/a&gt;. Chat log &lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/December+15+Organizing+Call+chat+log&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;transcript here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br&gt;Attendees&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;Harry, Mark, Korkie, Jon&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Julian&amp;#39;s radio appearance&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt; radio appearance this past Friday. Check it out: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/7hNS1y&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/7hNS1y&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br&gt;Legislative situation&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;legislatively, nothing on either hte house or senate calendar. Every day not there is another % surer we will get an extension. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark: last extension in similar circumstnace ran one only about a month. &lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br&gt;Pelosi outreach&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;Pelosi went out here early this afternoon. Has to be forwarded to her through her pseaking agent, may take a little while. Here&amp;#39;s the situation, wer&amp;#39;re looking short term for 5 min. video, 20 second commercial, longer term we think it&amp;#39;s worth a documentary.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;harry: with Pelosi, if we do get tot he point where it&amp;#39;s a pitch for a documentary, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;for GFR in general, as we expand our distribution networks invideo tha&amp;#39;s soething that could becoe really powerful -- blogs, other media outlets&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;pitch just telling who we are and what we are thinking, provide links to the web pages. Ask is there is a story here, let&amp;#39;s talk about it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark: assumption is the thing will get forarded to her. Go trhough her video agent who I don&amp;#39;t know, and hse&amp;#39;ll take a look at ***, pencil a couple of comments, and some deputy assistnat agent will get back to us.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Individual stories&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;Mark: two emails from woman on OFA email with horrible Patriot exeprience. Told it was people in armed forces were highly suspected terrorists. Another form a alwyer in LA with 5 type written apges of stuff he expects is patriot related. Horrible experince  of people comign in, mesing with computers, etc.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Holidays plans&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;Korkie: Give htem time to rest, refocus. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Korkie: something positive, happy holidays&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: message to send out, wrap up for the year, here is what we&amp;#39;re doing next year, thanks for hte effort, have a gerat holiday season&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Korkie: prepare for short postponement, to keep epople on their toes, ready to go out.. Which is what rapid response does anyways.&lt;br&gt;&lt;hr size=&quot;1&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;</description></item><item><title>December 15 Organizing Call chat log</title><link>http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/December+15+Organizing+Call+chat+log</link><author>Hwaisbren</author><guid isPermaLink="false">http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/December+15+Organizing+Call+chat+log</guid><pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:24:04 CST</pubDate><description>Chat log for &lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/December+15+Organizing+Call&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;Dec 15 organizing call&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Hi everyone, glad you could make it to our latest call! &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tuesday December 15, 20093:19HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg readercomment &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:23&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext viewer_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinecommentname&quot;&gt;[Comment From Mark DorlesterMark Dorlester:]&lt;/div&gt;Hi.  Is Amy OK? &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December 15, 20093:23Mark Dorlester&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:24&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon sent out that email this weekend about her internet, that&amp;#39;s the last I heard &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December 15, 20093:24HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg readercomment &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:24&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext viewer_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinecommentname&quot;&gt;[Comment From korkiekorkie:]&lt;/div&gt;are we not going to have a phone conference? &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December 15, 20093:24korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:25&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Yes we are Korkie, starting in 5 minutes or so &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December 15, 20093:25HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg readercomment &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:25&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext viewer_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinecommentname&quot;&gt;[Comment From korkiekorkie:]&lt;/div&gt;I, needless to say ...... do not have the conference call numbers. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December 15, 20093:25korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:26&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;should be at hte top of hte page: Dialin: 1-270-696-2525 Access code: 705723 &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December 15, 20093:26HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg readercomment &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:27&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext viewer_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinecommentname&quot;&gt;[Comment From korkiekorkie:]&lt;/div&gt;usually it is.  But the link I used only has the comments ... nothing else. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December 15, 20093:27korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:28&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Mark Dorlester:&lt;/div&gt;Try &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December 15, 20093:28Mark Dorlester&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:28&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;This link? &lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/December+15+Organizing+Call&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/December+15+Organizing+Call&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December 15, 20093:28HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:28&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Mark Dorlester:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/December+15+Organizing+Call&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/December+15+Organizing+Call&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December 15, 20093:28Mark Dorlester&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:33&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;I&amp;#39;m describing Julian&amp;#39;s NRA radio appearance this past Friday. Check it out: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/7hNS1y&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/7hNS1y&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December 15, 20093:33HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:34&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mark: legislatively, nothing on either hte house or senate calendar. Every day not there is another % surer we will get an extension. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December 15, 20093:34HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:35&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mark: last extension in similar circumstnace ran one only about a month. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December 15, 20093:35HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg readercomment &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:35&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext viewer_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinecommentname&quot;&gt;[Comment From jonjon:]&lt;/div&gt;hi all, just dialing in now ... &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December 15, 20093:35jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:35&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;jon:&lt;/div&gt;amy is okay, she&amp;#39;s just been having computer problems &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December 15, 20093:35jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:36&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;jon:&lt;/div&gt;yeah i&amp;#39;d be surprised if we heard from them before the new year &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December 15, 20093:36jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:36&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mark: Pelosi went out here early this afternoon. Has to be forwarded to her through her pseaking agent, may take a little while. Here&amp;#39;s the situation, wer&amp;#39;re looking short term for 5 min. video, 20 second commercial, longer term we think it&amp;#39;s worth a documentary. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December 15, 20093:36HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:37&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;I don&amp;#39;t think we will not hear anything coming from Congress that does not involve health care ... &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December 15, 20093:37korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:37&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;jon:&lt;/div&gt;harry: with Pelosi, if we do get tot he point where it&amp;#39;s a pitch for a documentary, i can help -- i was a film major, have some decent connections &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December 15, 20093:37jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:38&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;jon:&lt;/div&gt;harry: for GFR in general, as we expand our distribution networks invideo tha&amp;#39;s soething that could becoe really powerful -- blogs, other media outlets &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December 15, 20093:38jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:40&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mark: two emails from woman on OFA email with horrible Patriot exeprience. Told it was people in armed forces were highly suspected terrorists. Another form a alwyer in LA with 5 type written apges of stuff he expects is patriot related. Horrible experince  of people comign in, mesing with computers, etc. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December 15, 20093:40HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:41&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: stories clearly out there. Talk with groups more, circle back with people like ACLU  whoa re looking to do something like this also. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December 15, 20093:41HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:43&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Harry: converting storeis to major deal to media, esp Pelosi&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark: if you have 8 stories like that, you will have a whole documentary. 1 story just won&amp;#39;t stnad. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December 15, 20093:43HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:49&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Harry: need for a film treatment. Difficulty of getting storeis, tell history amidst our great content&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark: pitch just telling who we are and what we are thinking, provide links to the web pages. Ask is there is a story here, let&amp;#39;s talk about it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Harry: go through what we have &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: question of need for treatment&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark: assumption is the thing will get forarded to her. Go trhough her video agent who I don&amp;#39;t know, and hse&amp;#39;ll take a look at ***, pencil a couple of comments, and some deputy assistnat agent will get back to us. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December 15, 20093:49HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:52&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Harry: treatment not to o complex, going to start taking notes in prep of mpotential meeting&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: open left not a great time btw climate change/health care.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Harry: question of value of inserting a new issue. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December 15, 20093:52HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:57&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Harry: delay aggressive media outreach?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: no story here yet, nothing uniquely timely. n story here yet.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: how do we encourage our members to talk to family an dfirends over hte holidays Way things change is combination of inside stuff, video media stuff, and oeple to epople, social networks in a non-tech sense.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Korkie: with everything going on, last thing they want to talk about. Especially this year. Give htem time to rest, refocus. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December 15, 20093:57HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:58&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Korkie: something positive, happy holidays &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December 15, 20093:58HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:59&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mark: agree poepl ie in the holidays have own sresses. Need to be ready to go off like a moustrap though. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December 15, 20093:59HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:00&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: message to send out, wrap up for the year, here is what we&amp;#39;re doing next year, thanks for hte effort, have a gerat holiday season &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December 15, 20094:00HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:03&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;jon:&lt;/div&gt;good stuff all, a pleasure as always! &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December 15, 20094:03jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:03&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Korkie: prepare for short postponement, to keep epople on their toes, ready to go out.. Which is what rapid response does anyways.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: real pleasure workign with everyone. Amazed from progress we have made, going from Jon centric to epole besides me driving. Something huge and something so hard for activist groups to do. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December 15, 20094:03HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:04&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;Have a blessed, safe, happy holiday. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December 15, 20094:04korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:05&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;jon:&lt;/div&gt;happy holidays to all! &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;hr size=&quot;1&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;</description></item><item><title>December 15 Organizing Call</title><link>http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/December+15+Organizing+Call</link><author>Hwaisbren</author><guid isPermaLink="false">http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/December+15+Organizing+Call</guid><pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:07:34 CST</pubDate><description>&lt;br&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;bottom&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; class=&quot;WPC-edit-style-none WPC-edit-border-none WPC-edit-styleData-color1=%23ebebeb&amp;color2=%23c7c7c7&quot; width=&quot;100%&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;22%&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;center&quot; bgcolor=&quot;#a8f7c9&quot; class=&quot;WPC-edit-custom-bgColor&quot; width=&quot;56%&quot;&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;4&quot;&gt;Making an Impact: A Patriot Act and FISA reform organizing call&lt;br&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tuesday: 3:30 pm PST/6:30 pm EST&lt;br&gt;Dialin: 1-270-696-2525 Access code: 705723&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You are cordially invited to a phone call and online chat to discuss the fight to fix the Patriot Act and FISA.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Please join in pre-meeting discussions &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://getfisaright.wordpress.com/2009/10/25/continuing-the-conversation/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;on the Get FISA RIght blog&lt;/a&gt; or in the chat room below!&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;21%&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;bottom&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; class=&quot;WPC-edit-style-grid1 WPC-edit-border-all WPC-edit-styleData-color1=%23ebebeb&amp;color2=%23c7c7c7&quot; width=&quot;100%&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;50%&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Goals&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Assess PA and NV involvement progress&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Go over GFR videos and Pelosi outreach&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Discuss messaging and overrall strategy&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Commence media outreach&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;b&gt;Draft Agenda&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Legislative situation: any more news? (1-5 min)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;PA and NV election battles discussion (10-15 min)&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;GFR videos and Pelosi documentary (10-15 min)&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Strategy discussion on interrelating initiatives (10-15)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Media outreach: going through and dividing up media contact lists (5-10 min)&lt;br&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;For those who can stay on later we will be conducting a tweetchat for twitter outreach to media, while others will be emailing and calling&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#ffa500&quot;&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#333333&quot;&gt;Resources&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Get FISA Right &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://getfisaright.wordpress.com/2009/12/09/get-fisa-right-multimedia-library/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;multimedia library&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://getfisaright.wordpress.com/2009/12/06/end-of-the-year-patriot-act-strategy-thinking-please-discuss/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;End of the year Patriot Act Strategy Thinking&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Open letter&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://getfisaright.wordpress.com/2009/11/22/final-draft-of-our-open-letter-to-obama/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; final version&lt;br&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Distribution+Center&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;Distribution Center&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Media+Contact+List&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;Media contact list&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Latest &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/6dDgAH&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Suggested Tweets&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;50%&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;hr size=&quot;1&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;</description></item><item><title>Patriot Act Action Hub</title><link>http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Patriot+Act+Action+Hub</link><author>Hwaisbren</author><guid isPermaLink="false">http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Patriot+Act+Action+Hub</guid><pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:15:17 CST</pubDate><description>&lt;table align=&quot;bottom&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; class=&quot;WPC-edit-style-none WPC-edit-border-none WPC-edit-styleData-color1=%23ebebeb&amp;color2=%23c7c7c7&quot; height=&quot;175&quot; width=&quot;973&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;14%&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td bgcolor=&quot;#a8f7c9&quot; class=&quot;WPC-edit-custom-bgColor&quot; width=&quot;72%&quot;&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;4&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;div align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;4&quot;&gt;The Patriot Act Action Hub is the central hub for relaying news and actions during the Patriot Act reauthorization debate.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br&gt;Join us for our &lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/December+15+Organizing+Call&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;next organizing call&lt;/a&gt;, Tuesday, Dec. 15.&lt;br&gt;Here are the &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://getfisaright.wordpress.com/2009/12/09/key-takeaways-from-dec-8-organizing-call/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;key takeaways &lt;/a&gt;from our last call on Tuesday, Dec. 8.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;Please sign our Open Letter to President Obama, which we hope he will once again respond to as he did last summer, through any of the links below:&lt;br&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/498/p/dia/action/public/index.sjs?action_KEY=1775&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;sign on via BORDC&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://www.change.org/get_fisa_right/actions/view/get_fisa_rights_open_letter_to_president_obama&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;sign on via change.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://www.thepetitionsite.com/petition/899417535&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;sign on via Care2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://act.ly/1fp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;sign on via Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;13%&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;bottom&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; class=&quot;WPC-edit-style-none WPC-edit-border-none WPC-edit-styleData-color1=%23ebebeb&amp;color2=%23c7c7c7&quot; height=&quot;693&quot; width=&quot;964&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot; WPC-edit-borderTop-solid WPC-edit-custom-borderTop WPC-edit-borderLeft-solid WPC-edit-custom-borderLeft WPC-edit-borderRight-solid WPC-edit-custom-borderRight WPC-edit-borderBottom-solid WPC-edit-custom-borderBottom&quot; width=&quot;33%&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Take action!&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sign and spread Get FISA Right&amp;#39;s &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/498/p/dia/action/public/index.sjs?action_KEY=1775&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Open Letter to President Obama&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tweet from our list of &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://getfisaright.wordpress.com/2009/11/30/open-letter-suggested-tweets/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Suggested Tweets&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Send this&lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttps://secure.eff.org/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&amp;page=UserAction&amp;id=443&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt; EFF action alert&lt;/a&gt; to your congressman&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Take &lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttps://secure.aclu.org/site/Advocacy?pagename=homepage&amp;id=1779&amp;page=UserAction&amp;s_src=UNW090001ACT&amp;s_subsrc=fullalert_102709&amp;JServSessionIdr003=8rp1bkel93.app20a&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;ACLU action&lt;/a&gt;: Ask your representative to co-sponsor the USA Patriot Amendments Act of 2009.  &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Send a &lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Letters+to+the+Editor+Templates&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;Letter to the Editor &lt;/a&gt;using our template&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;b&gt;In the News&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Obama equates &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://getfisaright.wordpress.com/2009/12/09/obama-equates-disagreement-to-being-demeaning/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;disagreement to being demeaning&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Key Takeaways from our Dec. 8 &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://getfisaright.wordpress.com/2009/12/09/key-takeaways-from-dec-8-organizing-call/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Patriot Act reform organizing call&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Key Takeaways from our Dec. 1 &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://getfisaright.wordpress.com/2009/12/01/key-takeaways-from-december-1-organizing-call/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Patriot Act reform organizing call&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Feingold, Wyden, Durbin will receive &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://washingtonindependent.com/68329/holder-promises-to-produce-evidence-requested-on-usa-patriot-act&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;evidence on section 215&lt;/a&gt;, the &amp;quot;business records provision&amp;quot; from AG Holder&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Kim Zetter&amp;#39;s &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/11/patriot-act/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Handy Chart Tracks Proposed Amendments to the Patriot Act&lt;/a&gt; discusses CDT&amp;#39;s side-by-side analysis of the House and Senate bills &lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-conyers/a-patriots-patriot-act_b_344480.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;HJC Chairman John Conyers&lt;/a&gt; takes to the Huffington Post to discuss the Patriot Act reform bils&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The Center for Democracy and Technology discusses how the House Patriot Act bill draws broad support on account of &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://blog.cdt.org/2009/10/29/house-patriot-act-bill-draws-broad-support-on-account-of-national-security-letter-fix/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;National Security Letter fix&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://getfisaright.wordpress.com/2009/10/30/social-network-activism-and-the-future-of-civil-liberties/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Jon Pincus posts&lt;/a&gt; on social network activism and the future of civil liberties &lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;EFF explains the two &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/10/breaking-news-house-representatives-enters-patriot&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;new surveillance bills&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;center&quot; class=&quot; WPC-edit-custom-borderLeft WPC-edit-borderTop-solid WPC-edit-custom-borderTop WPC-edit-borderRight-solid WPC-edit-custom-borderRight WPC-edit-borderBottom-solid WPC-edit-custom-borderBottom WPC-edit-borderLeft-solid WPC-edit-custom-borderLeft&quot; width=&quot;67%&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Let us know what you think--leave a comment in the chat room below.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Other Resources&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://getfisaright.wordpress.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Get FISA Right blog&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Proposed &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://getfisaright.wordpress.com/2009/11/19/proposed-open-letter-to-obama/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Open Letter to the President&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Last summer&amp;#39;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/An+open+letter+to+Senator+Obama&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;Open Letter &lt;/a&gt;and &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/rospars/gGxsZF/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Obama&amp;#39;s response to us&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Wired.com chart tracking &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/11/patriot-act/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;proposed amendments&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The &amp;quot;techie&amp;quot; side of &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://getfisaright.wordpress.com/2009/11/13/the-techie-side-of-getting-it-right/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Getting it Right&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#333333&quot;&gt;List of&lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/House+Judiciary+Committee+Social+Media+Accounts&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/House+Judiciary+Committee+Social+Media+Accounts&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;House Judiciary Committee members Twitter and Facebook accounts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#333333&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/JUSTICE+Bill+activism+on+Twitter&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;Instructions for Twitter&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/If+you%27re+new+to+Twitter&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;getting-started info&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;hr size=&quot;1&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;</description></item><item><title>December 8 Organizing Call Key Takeaways Notes</title><link>http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/December+8+Organizing+Call+Key+Takeaways+Notes</link><author>Hwaisbren</author><guid isPermaLink="false">http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/December+8+Organizing+Call+Key+Takeaways+Notes</guid><pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:39:39 CST</pubDate><description>&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/December+8+Organizing+Call&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;December 8 Organizing call home page&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Attendees&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;Amy, Mark, Harry, Jon, tw3k (Forest) Troy, Korkie, Jim, Kevin, Rebecca,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.commailto:tw3k.net@gmail.com&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;tw3k.net@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Legislative situation&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;bottom line: everybody *believes* there will be an extension that&amp;#39;ll be continued into next year -- 30 seconds work extending sunset time for 3 or 6 months&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark spoke to Ben Cardin&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark: couple of people on the republican side and blue dog types who really don&amp;#39;t want to do anything, don&amp;#39;t want reforms, want to extend current law. Whitehouse through FBI saying that&amp;#39;s the thing to do.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark&amp;#39;s blog post: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-dorlester/good-news-for-civil-liber_b_383260.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-dorlester/good-news-for-civil-liber_b_383260.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: nightmare scenairo is sessions seizes opportunity for full extension, hopeful allies in congerss are strong enough to block that. If it happens, ahve to best mobilization we can do at drop of a hat&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Pennsylvania&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;Amy: I reached out to Sen. Specter and Sestak&amp;#39;s office, spoke with both legislative aid and chief councle to senate judiciary committee, and I posed to them waht I knew was an incorrect wrod to use, continuing resolution, knowing that would probably not happen.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; Amy: wanted him to tell me waht he saw in regards to the sunsetting provisions of FISA and Patriot Act. Wrods he used was reauthorization &lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Strategy discussion&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Focus on in district&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark offers to make training manual with help from Amy&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;strategy for next year, right way to frame it as Mark did, trying to transition from being rabble rousers to ifnluencing legislation. Influencing legislative process.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: combine grassroots strenght, our unique assett, we have that with new media technologies with this diverse group of peole who haven&amp;#39;t been involved with civil liberties activism before.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: how we couple that with playing the inside baseball. Working with the legislaitve assistnats who are our allies, workign to get things placed in media.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: Amy pointed out, start small, local stories, build up.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Harry: with that in mind, so many of htese democratic politicians who want to be known as &amp;quot;moderates&amp;quot; are desparate for an issue that has bipartisan support&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Harry:&lt;/div&gt;transpartisan, in Obama&amp;#39;s case. this is the kind of issue that if they lash themselves to, it can work. back when i had my own radio show, interviewed with Bob Craemer, he agreed. the key is to get Obama, Reid, etc. to realize that bipartisanship doesn&amp;#39;t mean just Rep senators, much more the grassroots stuff &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: other group everyone is scared of getting associated iwth are drug reform and specifically the legalization activists.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: listing hte groups hwo sneak and peek has been applied against.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rebecca: great point. I know push for legalization is gaining momentum. In city of Oakland, might be a politician who would speak out vociferously on Patriot Act as it relates to current drug poliices.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon mentions connects in CA Privacy community&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Harry: one last thing, that transitions to the media discussion: a key driver of the story was the cross-political bipartisan nature of this issue. connecting hippies and NRA folks is a story&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Nevada Focus,&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;connecting Rebecca to Tracy&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Harry: Nevada&amp;#39;s really interesting because of Harry Reid. FDL has been pushing on the public option, and has the infrastructure to do phonebanking&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rebecca: he knows his neck is on the line. Nevadans respect privacy, very libertarian, regarldess of whether they are partisna.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: appelas to libertarians, are well organized in NV. Didn&amp;#39;t they take over the state?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rebecca: yeah, the Ron Paulians.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rebecca: Nevadans are darn libertarian, whether Dems or Repubs. ACLU is unique in nation, as our board of directors has come out expressly supporting idnivuidal rights to bear arms and reasons why.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rebecca: we&amp;#39;re a whole state like that. There are some gun advocates and activists within the state who have uniquely partnered with us on privacy issues in the state.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;reaching out to 2nd amendment folks! Discussed often with Julian as well. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;sneak-and-peak is frequently used on weapons issues -- it was #2 or #3, after drugs and (maybe) IRS &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Videos&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jim is intersted in video&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Use new media to connect with activists in NV, they connect to other lcoals despite medai decimation&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark and Harry to connect iwth Alexandra Pelosi &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://www.alexandrapelosi.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.alexandrapelosi.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: have talked a lot about it, civil liberties groups have in general. two videos needed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1. quick overview, 3-5 minutes. waht&amp;#39;s the issue, what&amp;#39;s at stake, waht do we want to have happen. Educaitonal issue. Wtih CATO institute willing ot make avialable some of htat stuff for raw material, we havee the jist of that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Need to actually make it. Lesson from 2008 is that a surprising number of people are iwllign to watch even long form videos. Complement with 5 minute stuff, and then 30 seconds TV ad, ultra quick ad, then put on cable TV.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Last  Jan did memer funded TV ads, workign with &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://saysme.tv/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;saysme.tv&lt;/a&gt;. Prices surprsingly reasonable. Inauguration ads in DC for 4-5 hundred dollars. Over time, if we want to have an influence in some of these campaigns, being able to run TV ads will get people to take us much more seriously. 30 seconds to appeal to emotions, tell stories.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Straegy post on the web, linked off to brainstorms from early in the year. Question is how we make progress on this? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: one thing we should od is we should create a multimedia library. If we can get that, wahteve Cato has, classic Feingold video we have somewhere, collect all of those in one place.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: don&amp;#39;t care if it&amp;#39;s just links in a blog thread, let&amp;#39;s know what&amp;#39;s out there now. Shows us raw materials and the gaps. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;amy continuing contacts and Cato videos&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rebecca following up to see if her video is available on the web &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: two things from Chip, radio podcast, Stanford video, someone follow up with him on that. (Harry to email Chip)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Google wave&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;Forest suggests&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: google describes wave as what would email be like if it was invented in 2010&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: I don&amp;#39;t think it&amp;#39;s a great description. See it as a great place to do collaborate documents wiht discussions &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: GFR has always been failry good at htis for a distributed group, doign open letters, doing script for videos, but it&amp;#39;s like pullin teeth to do.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: wave could make that much more effective. Coudl also solve problem about one place to go that&amp;#39;s easy for anyone to update to see waht&amp;#39;s going on for team members, people working on this&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: wiki coudl theoretically solve it, but in practice it&amp;#39;s too hard to use for too many people&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;open letter wave: &lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttps://wave.google.com/wave/#restored:wave:googlewave.com&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;https://wave.google.com/wave/#restored:wave:googlewave.com&lt;/a&gt;!&lt;br&gt;&lt;hr size=&quot;1&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;</description></item><item><title>December 8 Organizing Call transcript</title><link>http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/December+8+Organizing+Call+transcript</link><author>Hwaisbren</author><guid isPermaLink="false">http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/December+8+Organizing+Call+transcript</guid><pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:16:44 CST</pubDate><description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/December+8+Organizing+Call&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;December 8 Organizing call home page&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:29&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext viewer_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinecommentname&quot;&gt;[Comment From Amy RingenbachAmy Ringenbach:]&lt;/div&gt;Hello everyone.. just standing by &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:29Amy Ringenbach&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg readercomment &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:29&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext viewer_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinecommentname&quot;&gt;[Comment From tw3ktw3k:]&lt;/div&gt;any here yet? &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:29tw3k&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg readercomment &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:29&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext viewer_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinecommentname&quot;&gt;[Comment From Mark DorlesterMark Dorlester:]&lt;/div&gt;Ready &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:29Mark Dorlester&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:30&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Hey everyone, welcome to the call/online chat! &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:30HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg readercomment &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:30&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext viewer_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinecommentname&quot;&gt;[Comment From jonjon:]&lt;/div&gt;dialing in now ... &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:30jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg readercomment &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:30&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext viewer_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinecommentname&quot;&gt;[Comment From Troy LeutzTroy Leutz:]&lt;/div&gt;hello &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:30Troy Leutz&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:31&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Rebecca, Korkie, Mark, Jim, Jon, and I are on the call. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Did I miss anyone? &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:31HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg readercomment &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:31&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext viewer_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinecommentname&quot;&gt;[Comment From korkiekorkie:]&lt;/div&gt;hi harry and troy &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:31korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:31&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Hello to you Korkie, tw3k, and Troy &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:31HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:31&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Troy Leutz:&lt;/div&gt;Hi Korkie &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:31Troy Leutz&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:31&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: short temr, best opportunity is stuff Amy is kicking off with Specter/Sestak &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:31HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:32&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: also want to discuss video work, and then media outreach.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: make sense for an agenda? &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:32HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:32&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Amy: Mark should chime in wiht discussions with legislators yesterday. Sharing his huffingtonpost report on legislative status &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:32HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:32&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Amy Ringenbach:&lt;/div&gt;Sharing with you all Mark&amp;#39;s &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-dorlester/good-news-for-civil-liber_b_383260.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-dorlester/good-news-for-civil-liber_b_383260.html&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:32Amy Ringenbach&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:32&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Guest:&lt;/div&gt;Link to my Huffpo article on legislative status &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:32Guest&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:32&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jim: I&amp;#39;m very interested in the video stuff &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:32HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:33&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Guest:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-dorlester/good-news-for-civil-liber_b_383260.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-dorlester/good-news-for-civil-liber_b_383260.html&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:33Guest&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:33&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: Mark, great reporting, every activism should have a reporter as an organizer &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:33HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:34&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;jon:&lt;/div&gt;bottom line: everybody *believes* there will be an extension that&amp;#39;ll be continued into next year -- 30 seconds work extending sunset time for 3 or 6 months &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:34jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:34&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mark: huffingtonpost article desgined for broader audience. Spoke with end total of 6 including Sen. Cardin personally who is my own senator.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark: bottom line, everybody believes that there will be an extension. All work done this fall on Patriot/FISA will be continued into next year. Will do 30 seconds worth of work extending sunset from Dec 31st until Feb/March/April &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:34HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:35&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mark: everybody handling as if I was asking about a secret CIA operation. On edge as you can imagine.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark: couple of people on the republican side and blue dog types who really don&amp;#39;t want to do anything, don&amp;#39;t want reforms, want to extend current law. Whitehouse through FBI saying that&amp;#39;s the thing to do.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:35HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:35&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;tw3k:&lt;/div&gt;on call now &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:35tw3k&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:36&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mark: conyers and all the other people say we need to finish serious reform work. Will go into next year, no one is willing to say on the record that that&amp;#39;s the case.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hi tw3k! &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:36HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:36&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mark: put HuffPo to key people in email. Here&amp;#39;s what i&amp;#39;m going to say, will count to 10, if you disagree with it you better say something, they all agreed. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:36HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:36&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;tw3k:&lt;/div&gt;Hi Harry &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:36tw3k&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:37&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: consistent with waht I heard from others, likely outcome, not definite yet.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: need to do our best to scramble if they sneak something by this year. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: nightmare scenairo is sessions seizes opportunity for full extension, hopeful allies in congerss are strong enough to block that. If it happens, ahve to best mobilization we can do at drop of a hat. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:37HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:38&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Amy: I reached out to Sen. Specter and Sestak&amp;#39;s office, spoke with both legislative aid and chief councle to senate judiciary committee, and I posed to them waht I knew was an incorrect wrod to use, continuing resolution, knowing that would probably not happen.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Amy: wanted him to tell me waht he saw in regards to the sunsetting provisions of FISA and Patriot Act. Wrods he used was reauthorization &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:38HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:38&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Amy: did not hear word extension. Did not hear a date or time, but what he said was Jan/Feb.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Amy: concurs with what Mark heard. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:38HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:39&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Amy: explained who GFR is, who our allied orgs are, put all of our helpful organizations in the right perspective, didn&amp;#39;t say to Specter general councle that they were members.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:39HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:40&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Amy: mentioned individuals by name, that there was a good possibility Kevin would be on the call today, was impressed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: thanks for joining us Kevin&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: important we are sending proper message. Partisan gorup of Obama supporters, greatly appreciate groups like EFF, Cato, ACLU, BORDC, sharing ifno they&amp;#39;ve got iwht us. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: that&amp;#39;s really the extent of hte coordination that we do with these groups. All 501c3&amp;#39;s &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:40HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:41&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Kevin: I appreciate not being characterized as a member of htis coalition. Limiting participatoi to providing information. Substance of law and proceedings. Do have to limit it to that. Have on occasion publicized your group&amp;#39;s work, but it is most certainly yoru group and not ours. Hope we can conitnue to be very clear on that score.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: hope we have been clear enough so far.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Amy: Kevin, Julian said same thing. Why I&amp;#39;m careful when I speak to legislators. These individuals from these different groups are highly trained scholars from whom we glean information.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Amy: hope it&amp;#39;s termed int he right way that works for you.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kevin: fair to say taht you as voters are seekign ifno from legal expertso n the state of hte debate. We are not coordinating activism in any way, not members of your coalition. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:41HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:42&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mark: the line that we or anybody has crossed, the legal line, a 501c3 is perfectly entitled to provide &amp;quot;technical assistance&amp;quot; in terms of legal innterpretations, from their knowledge base applies.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark: line is influencing specific legislation or elections or anything htat might be construed as political. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:42HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:43&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Kevin: we are allowed to have some portion of our budget for lobbying. What we can&amp;#39;t do is electioneer. Can&amp;#39;t support or oppose any candidate for anything.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kevin: why you being Obama supporters explicitly is the issue.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: as always appreciate all the help we can get. While expressing appreciation, Mark, Amy, you two have done a great job. In GFr&amp;#39;s entire lifetime, best legislative contact we have had.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: great lead into discussion of the strategy for next year. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:43HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:44&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;jon:&lt;/div&gt;excellent point: we need to get citizens in Leahy&amp;#39;s, etc., districts &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:44jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:44&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Amy: I would love for us to find individuals in our wider circle who are residents of Sessions, Sensenbrenner&amp;#39;s, Leahy&amp;#39;s district. Important for us to have individuals who are constituents whose entreateis of info would be welcome.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Amy: awkward for me to call Leahy&amp;#39;s office. Don&amp;#39;t know we have anyone who lives up there. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:44HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:44&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;jon:&lt;/div&gt;we need to understand our assets &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:44jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:45&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Amy: as long as we can convey we are seekign info, however we can support legislation that collectively we agree with, we can go forward &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:45HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:46&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mark: I emphatically agree. In terms of legislative contact, not the only issue, not the only time. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark: two of hte poeple on Cardin&amp;#39;s staff did not know me from days of old. Was able to speak with them, get them to return my phone calls within a reasonable amount of time, because I was a constituent adn because I presented myself honestly as I am, as a Cardin supporter.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:46HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:46&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mark: i&amp;#39;m a constituent, need to talk about xyz gets staff attention. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:46HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:46&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;tw3k:&lt;/div&gt;that was a big problem in the last fisa fight &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:46tw3k&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:47&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: going forward, early next year, do a training session where Mark/Amy help coach other GFR members. Reach out, get poeple from various districts, on how to do this effectively &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:47HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:47&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;tw3k:&lt;/div&gt;not being in district* &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:47tw3k&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:47&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Amy: Kevin made a point earlier that we as members of get fisa right are better informed voters because of the info that Julian and Shahid and Chip etc. give. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:47HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:47&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;training a good idea! &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:47korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:47&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;true harry .... &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:47korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:48&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Agree completely on training everyone!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark: I developed a manual, shell of training manual already exists. Would be eager to tailor it or do whatever we need. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:48HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:48&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;agree &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:48korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:48&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: two of you take the action of organizing something, phone call or a chat. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: early next year. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:48HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:49&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Amy: have not yet heard back from Sestak&amp;#39;s office, know he is up to his neck in armed services due to his position on afghanistan. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Amy: got nods back that some body on legislative side would get back to me. Will rpeort back.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon; best place is in comments on the blog thread. Most recent thread that applies. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:49HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:50&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: top right of blog, can see list of most recent comments, fairly easy&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Harry: new blog posts?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: if you have enough to say for a new post, yes. For anyone who doesn&amp;#39;t have editing writes, we should add you. For a lot of things, might be overkill. But sharing info helps track what&amp;#39;s going on. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:50HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:50&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: 2010 strategy discussion.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: day job as strategist, have strong feelings on it, but feel free to push back against me.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: important to spend time thinking aobut strategy. Most activism campaigns do not.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:50HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:51&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: end of last year, took a step back, spent time disucssing communication strategies and what goals/strategies for upcoming year was.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: repeat process. Divide into first 90 days.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: assuming extension happens, we have one set of strategy. After that, don&amp;#39;t completely know, but have some ideas &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:51HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:52&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Amy Ringenbach:&lt;/div&gt;Quick follow-up to share: this, today, from Julian Sanchez/CATO. His podcast on the status of the pending FISA /Patriot Act today &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://www.cato.org/dailypodcast/podcast-archive.php?podcast_id=1047&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.cato.org/dailypodcast/podcast-archive.php?podcast_id=1047&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:52Amy Ringenbach&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:52&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mark: the political picture that I see is that if conservative insists on something getting done, isn&amp;#39;t a darn thing we can do about it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark: I don&amp;#39;t see any chance of influencing anything about the legislation in the next week and a half.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: realistically I think that&amp;#39;s the case. If someone tries something we&amp;#39;ll make as much noise as we can, but it&amp;#39;s so hard for me to imagine given the energy. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:52HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:53&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jim: short term about the letter?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: let&amp;#39;s revist that after we do strategy/pennsylvania conversation &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:53HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:54&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: strategy for next year, right way to frame it as Mark did, trying to transition from being rabble rousers to ifnluencing legislation. Influencing legislative process.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: combine grassroots strenght, our unique assett, we have that with new media technologies with this diverse group of peole who haven&amp;#39;t been involved with civil liberties activism before.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: how we couple that with playing the inside baseball. Working with the legislaitve assistnats who are our allies, workign to get things placed in media.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: Amy pointed out, start small, local stories, build up.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: need NYT to write about this, how do we get that to happen. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:54HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:56&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Amy: have been reaching out across the country to indivduals. Noted some members of these groups had responded. From those reach outs that I&amp;#39;ve done from my networks that I hope to derive the personal stories that we can build.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Amy: where we can get some great stuff. Want to personally work on this come January. Develop these storeis, get these grassroots groups to produce their own videos about their own people&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: great idea, combines with BORDC local ordinances stuff &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:56HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:56&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;I am gratefully lurking and learning ........ &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:56korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:56&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Korkie doesn&amp;#39;t have anything to add.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Forest: I&amp;#39;m tw3k. I just got into here, so just getting acclimated. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:56HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:58&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Rebecca: back in 2004/5, jurisdictions in NV that passed resolutions encouraging congress to repeal the patriot act. That would be a good place to start. Reaching back out to those jurisdictions.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rebecca: those city councils would have changed, some people may be the same. People who voted for those resolutions might be willign to listen up again. Pass additional resolutions of the same ilk.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rebecca: website detailing those nationwide jurisdictions that passed similar resolutions &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:58HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:58&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Amy Ringenbach:&lt;/div&gt;Hello Forest and thank you for joining us here today! (I&amp;#39;m also &amp;#39;BleuZ00m&amp;#39; on twitter and update us GFR folks via the twitter tag, @GFRoutreach ) &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:58Amy Ringenbach&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:59&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: explicitly see waht they&amp;#39;re doing, follow up with that&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rebecca: Reno never passed one of those. Could get meetings with local city council folks to get something passed. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:59HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:59&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: do you know Tracy Viscelli?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rebecca: I don&amp;#39;t know her personally, but know her story. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:59HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:59&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: I&amp;#39;ll connect you two, she has been helping us a lot, busy with other stuff&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rebecca: didn&amp;#39;t ofllow her, but hte story of her when it broke &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:59HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:59&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;jon:&lt;/div&gt;action item for jon: connect Rebecca and Tracy Viselli &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20093:59jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:00&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;jon:&lt;/div&gt;Harry: Nevada&amp;#39;s really interesting because of Harry Reid. FDL has been pushing on the public option, and has the infrastructure to do phonebanking &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:00jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:00&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;jon:&lt;/div&gt;consider focusing on Nevada as well as PA? &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:00jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:00&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;jon:&lt;/div&gt;Mark: absolutely agree! &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:00jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:01&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;jon:&lt;/div&gt;Rebecca: similarly reticient about coordinating activism (501c3/4 issues). &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:01jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:01&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Rebecca: we don&amp;#39;t ahve capacity for phone banking, but if others do, that&amp;#39;d be great.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:01HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:01&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Amy Ringenbach:&lt;/div&gt;From Harry: Seeking insights from Nevada is an excellent location for our focus. Particularly because Harry Reid is in a tight race there. FireDogLake has been following Reid closely. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:01Amy Ringenbach&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:02&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Rebecca: he knows his neck is on the line. Nevadans respect privacy, very libertarian, regarldess of whether they are partisna.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: appelas to libertarians, are well organized in NV. Didn&amp;#39;t they take over the state?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rebecca: yeah, the Ron Paulians. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:02HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:03&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Rebecca: the news readership in this state has gone down quite significantly. Coverage here has gotten pretty spotty, hasn&amp;#39;t been as much in depht news coverage in the past. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rebecca: relies on AP stories, or if htey do cover, these subjects get short shrift. Obstacle to overcome &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:03HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:03&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Rebecca: reaching out to grassroots via phone banking &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:03HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:03&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: local alternative media we should be contacting?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rebecca: Las Vegas city life, Reno enws and review is a small paper &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:03HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:04&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Amy Ringenbach:&lt;/div&gt;from Rebecca/ACLUNV details that Nevada news coverage has been diminished somewhat. (Assuming this echoes the trend other non-new-media news outlets are currently facing..) &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:04Amy Ringenbach&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:05&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Harry: where new media comes in.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: using new media to connect with activists, not the broad population, too big a jump to maek. Use new media to connect with activists, get them organized, everyone figure out on their own how to connect wiht braoder populations through local organizations. Bunch of different soltuions &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:05HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:06&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Amy: goes from the ground up. When local people want to get engaged, find out how to do it locally.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark: I would like to make a proposal for approval for myself, that I am literally kicking myself that I didn&amp;#39;t think of July of 08.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark: tomorrow morning, I will be on the pohne to the speaker&amp;#39;s office in search of one Alexandra Pelosi. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:06HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:07&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;jon:&lt;/div&gt;alexandra pelosi&amp;#39;s site: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://www.alexandrapelosi.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.alexandrapelosi.com/&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:07jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:07&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mark: she has done a series of progressive natioanl documentaries that have run on HBO that have been received as blockbuster insights into what&amp;#39;s going on in America with this issue and that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark: if I can track her down, what I would like to say to her is &amp;quot;there is fear abiding in the United States&amp;quot; and a good slice of that fear is of our own government, Patriot, fISA, etc. Wouldn&amp;#39;t it be nice if you and HBO went to these local communiteis and explored htat, and as part of that, showed literally visually showed, how new media were the answer to getting citizen effectiveness in combatting this &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:07HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:08&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;jon:&lt;/div&gt;harry: mark&amp;#39;s totally right ... i may have some contacts to help as well &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:08jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:09&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mark: will begin the exploration tomorrow. May come to nothing, in any event, may be a longer term kind of thing. No idea, know nothing about movie production.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: we just need to try to get a bunch of stuff like this going. Some of it might work, other not. Great idea though! &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:09HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:11&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: leading nicely into video discussion.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: have talked a lot about it, civil liberties groups have in general. two videos needed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1. quick overview, 3-5 minutes. waht&amp;#39;s the issue, what&amp;#39;s at stake, waht do we want to have happen. Educaitonal issue. Wtih CATO institute willing ot make avialable some of htat stuff for raw material, we havee the jist of that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Need to actually make it. Lesson from 2008 is that a surprising number of people are iwllign to watch even long form videos. Complement with 5 minute stuff, and then 30 seconds TV ad, ultra quick ad, then put on cable TV.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Last  Jan did memer funded TV ads, workign with &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://saysme.tv/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;saysme.tv&lt;/a&gt;. Prices surprsingly reasonable. Inauguration ads in DC for 4-5 hundred dollars. Over time, if we want to have an influence in some of these campaigns, being able to run TV ads will get people to take us much more seriously. 30 seconds to appeal to emotions, tell stories.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Straegy post on the web, linked off to brainstorms from early in the year. Question is how we make progress on this? &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:11HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:12&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;jon:&lt;/div&gt;how to make progress on doing the video stuff? &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:12jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:13&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Amy: seen up on national ACLU site, some videos that do discuss FISA/Patriot Act. What&amp;#39;s your sense as to whether we could use them?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rebecca: no idea. Shoot me a specific quesiton, can forward along. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:13HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:14&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Amy: other two cents I want to share, is in outreach to grasstop, some have talented video people. I&amp;#39;m at the point where I&amp;#39;m starting to make email/phone cal hand shakes with them, sharing with them videos I have produced in Pennsylvania area on health care issues. Hat I was wearing for about a year, so they can see what we&amp;#39;re thinkinga bout.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Amy: hopefully I can get from them stories amongst their members about NSL members that came to them out of the blue. Here&amp;#39;s the sticky part, discussing the fact that you ahd received an NSL letter can be considered a criminal action. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:14HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:15&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: gag order prevents that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: mroe broadly, how have members been effected by the patriot act. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:15HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:15&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Rebecca: very important. Was on local radio show talking about patriot act, and he discussed being vehemently opposed hwen it frist passed, but now saying it doesn&amp;#39;t effect him, what&amp;#39;st he big deal.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rebecca: gap we need to bridge. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:15HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:16&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Amy: I listend to it, was a great radio show!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Amy: do you know if that station records it. Would be great for us to share. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rebecca: let me find out. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:16HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:16&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Amy: broaches the subject of what we&amp;#39;re talkign about. Keys into how does this affect hte average person&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: people are starved for info, with all due respect to communicaitons form major DC orgs, they don&amp;#39;t resonate iwth peole there&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: nobody&amp;#39;s cracked on this issue for this iteration. Waht BORDC did so well previously. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:16HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:17&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: having your voice from NV, that&amp;#39;s something a lot more people can relate to. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:17HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:18&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: one thing we should od is we should create a multimedia library. If we can get that, wahteve Cato has, classic Feingold video we have somewhere, collect all of those in one place.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: don&amp;#39;t care if it&amp;#39;s just links in a blog thread, let&amp;#39;s know what&amp;#39;s out there now. Shows us raw materials and the gaps. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:18HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:19&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Harry: put in key takeaways to start collective info&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Harry: i&amp;#39;ll start colelcing info from wiki.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark: can you post a link to the wiki?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: apologizes for always assuming everyone knows that &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:19HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:19&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;jon:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com../&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:19jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:19&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: we use this as our library for assemblign pages and historical ifno. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:19HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:20&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: idea is you go to blog for the latest, or you go to the wiki to see an overview of what&amp;#39;s up, get directed to the various places.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: have not achieved the ideal, but that&amp;#39;s the intent &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:20HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:20&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;tw3k:&lt;/div&gt;on the new front I think goole wave would be a great tool to try &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:20tw3k&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:20&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Absolutely agree on Google wave! We&amp;#39;ve discussed starting a wave on our open letter, but we definitely need to get going on that and do much more. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:20HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:21&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: agreed&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Forest: I have invites, send to &lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.commailto:tw3k.net@gmail.com&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;tw3k.net@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:21HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:21&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: wrap up video conversaiton, then turn ot wave &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:21HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:21&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: next steps&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1. reaching out to Pelsoi&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2. establshing library&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3. amy continuing contacts and Cato videos&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;4. Rebecca following up to see if her video is available on the web &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:21HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:22&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;5. Amy: I&amp;#39;ll send Rebecca an email to forward onto ACLU national&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;6. Jon: two things from Chip, radio podcast, Stanford video, someone follow up with him on that. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:22HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:22&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Harry: I&amp;#39;ll email Chip &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:22HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:22&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Amy: trying to nail down two radio shows i&amp;#39;ll be on in PA talkign about Privacy and FISA, hasn&amp;#39;t happened yet. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:22HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:23&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: on our list to discss, PA primary, Google wave. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:23HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:23&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: next steps and what you need from us&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;table cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormalTable&quot; width=&quot;100%&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;                 &lt;td&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;                                  &lt;tr&gt;                  &lt;td width=&quot;12&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;                  &lt;td width=&quot;18&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;                  &lt;td width=&quot;4&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt; 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class=&quot;MsoNormalTable&quot; width=&quot;100%&quot;&gt;                   &lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;                    &lt;td&gt;                    4:25                    &lt;/td&gt;                    &lt;td&gt;                    HarryWaisbren:&lt;br&gt;Amy: what i&amp;#39;m sending to                    Specter&amp;#39;s team, the two Mark Dorlester articles, the long                    Cato debate that I&amp;#39;m editing into clips that we&amp;#39;ll use to                    pepper press roll outs with.&lt;br&gt;                    &lt;br&gt;                    Amy: Specter&amp;#39;s legal councle is interested in hearing from                    us. Is intrigued by the fact that we did have such a large                    footprint of any Obama org. Since then we have gained other                    members who may not entirely be in Obama&amp;#39;s camp, which is                    good and bad for us &lt;br&gt;Tuesday December 8,                    20094:25HarryWaisbren                    &lt;/td&gt;                   &lt;/tr&gt;                  &lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;                                                                                                                                                           &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:25&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Amy: not sure how to communicate that to Specter&amp;#39;s team. Seek all of your guidance on that. Specifically some individuals who are devoutly libertarian, devout advocats of the 2nd amendment. Not sure if now is the time to discuss. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:25HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:26&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Rebecca: what you just described is the state of NV.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rebecca: Nevadans are darn libertarian, whether Dems or Repubs. ACLU is unique in nation, as our board of directors has come out expressly supporting idnivuidal rights to bear arms and reasons why. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:26HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:26&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Rebecca: we&amp;#39;re a whole state like that. There are some gun advocates and activists within the state who have uniquely partnered with us on privacy issues in the state. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:26HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:27&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;jon:&lt;/div&gt;there&amp;#39;s a huge opportunity here. 2nd amendment advocates ofen are great privacy allies. progressive/libertarian coaltion is interesting too &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:27jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:27&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Rebecca: some of them are the poeple who were in GOP convention, had their actual voices heard.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Harry: completley completely agree about reaching out to 2nd amendment folks! Discussed often with Julian as well. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:27HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:28&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;jon:&lt;/div&gt;these types of civil liberties cross political boundaries  &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:28jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:28&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Rebecca: these types of civil libertries cross political boundaires. That&amp;#39;s why we have so much support in this state. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rebecca: several of our elected state reps are members of the NRA. We are a part of that western philosphy, it was natural, it was built around the use of guns and cowboys etc. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:28HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:28&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Rebecca: what makes the Patriot Act appeal to so many different people in this state is that privacy. That particular civil libery. On opposite sides when it comes ot aboriton, relgiion, etc. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Amy: commonality there&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rebecca: can be expressed to people of all political stripes &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:28HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:29&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;jon:&lt;/div&gt;sneak-and-peak is frequently used on weapons issues -- it was #2 or #3, after drugs and (maybe) IRS &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:29jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:29&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Amy: PA is the same way. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:29HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:29&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Amy: need to be sensitive to that, especially when speaking to Specter. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:29HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:30&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;signing off for now ..... &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:30korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:30&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: as you say, present it in the most favorable lights. This is one of GFR&amp;#39;s unique strenghts.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: Jon reseinsky quoted in Time magazine on us, spent time reaching out to libertarians in FL.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: we have good connections with them. Sure there are enough libertarians dems or reps that would consider voting in a dem primary in PA that sestak and Specter see them as an important bloc&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: equally sure Reid and whoever is challenging them see that as well. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:30HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:30&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;take care Korkie! &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:30HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:30&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;jon:&lt;/div&gt;thanks korkie! &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:30jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:31&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mark: &amp;quot;we have no permanent friends, no permanet enemies, we do have permanent issues&amp;quot;. Our issue is privacy from unwarranted government intrusion.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark: under that banner, and I think we talked about this however many months ago, and I&amp;#39;m glad to see the NRA get involved, it&amp;#39;s a logical thing. It&amp;#39;s unwarratned governmetn, literally, into the private lives of citizens.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:31HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:32&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mark: if you get all the historians in a room and ask for one unifying reason for American revolution, they would say that&amp;#39;s it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark: unwarranted, uncontrolled, intrusion into the private lives of citizens. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:32HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:32&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;jon:&lt;/div&gt;Harry: with that in mind, so many of htese democratic politicians who want to be known as &amp;quot;moderates&amp;quot; are desparate for an issue that has bipartisan support &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:32jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:34&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;jon:&lt;/div&gt;transpartisan, in Obama&amp;#39;s case. this is the kind of issue that if they lash themselves to, it can work. back when i had my own radio show, interviewed with Bob Craemer, he agreed. the key is to get Obama, Reid, etc. to realize that bipartisanship doesn&amp;#39;t mean just Rep senators, much more the grassroots stuff &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:34jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:34&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;I&amp;#39;ll follow up with Creamer, who is close with John Quinlan---radio host and producer &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:34HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:35&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: other situations, Specter, Reid, both on senatorial but also on the congressional level.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: Dave Reicher maybe. Can somebody look aroudn for that situaiton, where the pro-civil lbierties vote, libertarians plus progrsssives can make an impact in a race. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:35HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:35&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Amy: only problem I have with libertarians I have worked with, adamnatly pro-open carry. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:35HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:36&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;tw3k:&lt;/div&gt;I like the &amp;#39;issue partisan&amp;#39; idea &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:36tw3k&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:37&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: one of the thigns that makes people uncomfortable.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: GFR as an org has no position on gun control issues. Our members span the gammut, and so do organizations that are on the same side as us. That is jsut hte mindset we need to get into.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rebecca: need to section off, some poeple have problems working with ACLU on one issue becasue of other arm.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rebecca: we need to foucs in on where that&amp;#39;s going ot hit and the points we are going to hit, where ever others agree on those point,s tha&amp;#39;ts superflous.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark: if we have a statement that defines our issue so it&amp;#39;s not misundrstood, then that makes it easy to say &amp;quot;this is our issue&amp;quot; we have no position on these other ones. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:37HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:37&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: other group everyone is scared of getting associated iwth are drug reform and specifically the legalization activists.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: listing hte groups hwo sneak and peek has been applied against.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: know everyone is nervous about standing for osmething that benefits drug users &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:37HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:38&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Rebecca: great point. I know push for legalization is gaining momentum. In city of Oakland, might be a politician who would speak out vociferously on Patriot Act as it relates to current drug poliices. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:38HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:39&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Rebecca: bill in CA&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: Tom Amiatto, somethign like that. Great idea. Have some contacts in CA privacy community, can try to connect via that direction.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark: separating from drug issue, our concern is not hte object of hte search, whether it&amp;#39;s roaches that crawl or smolder.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark: not our issue. Our issue is the constitutional and otherwise legal premise for any search, whatever it is they are looking for. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:39HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:39&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mark: we dont like NSls in any case because we like judicial review in warrants. We like warrants. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:39HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:40&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;jon:&lt;/div&gt;Harry: one last thing, that transitions to the media discussion: a key driver of the story was the cross-political bipartisan nature of this issue. connecting hippies and NRA folks is a story &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:40jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:40&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;jon:&lt;/div&gt;all: absolutely! &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:40jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:40&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;jon:&lt;/div&gt;is there an AP/CBS/etc. reporter who would be interested? &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:40jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:40&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Rebecca: AP story who would cover that?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: we&amp;#39;ll do some research&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Amy: I have reach to a CBS guy who covers legal issues, trying to engage him. Let me see waht I can do. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:40HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:41&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Amy: who woudl think that the gun toting folks and the hippies could agree, but in this case, we do. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:41HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:41&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Amy: was looking for insight on how I want to frame how wide ranging the interest and commitments and concerns fo our disparate members are, from teh open carry folks to the hippies.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Amy: will frame it in that way, the overarching issue is privacy.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:41HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:42&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: point ot strange bedfellows alliance. Explicit progress libertarian alliance.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Harry: will be very involved in these primary battles too. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:42HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:42&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: delaying media due to grist we have to add from this, discuss google wave.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: position us to capitalize on it if the right conditions emerge. Outside the agenda of hte call, so before we get there, let&amp;#39;s wrap up. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:42HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:43&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;/div&gt; Jon: next steps&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1. reaching out to Pelsoi&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2. establshing library&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3. amy continuing contacts and Cato videos&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;4. Rebecca following up to see if her video is available on the web  &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 2009 4:21 HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tbody&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:22&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;/div&gt; 5. Amy: I&amp;#39;ll send Rebecca an email to forward onto ACLU national&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;6. Jon: two things from Chip, radio podcast, Stanford video, someone follow up with him on that. &lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/tbody&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:43HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:43&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Amy Ringenbach:&lt;/div&gt;About Specter and Sestak and how to describe our diverse membership to these legislators: thank YOU for your collective feedback, insights on this. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:43Amy Ringenbach&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:44&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Amy Ringenbach:&lt;/div&gt;7. Amy will get from Rebecca the links to that radio show &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:44Amy Ringenbach&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:44&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: thanks for yet another excellent phone call, anyone who wants to stay and discuss wave is welcome.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: next call next Tuesday the 15th, following Tues the 22nd maybe or maybe not, let&amp;#39;s see where we aer. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:44HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:45&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: next call same time, 3:30 &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:45HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:45&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: thanks to harry/Amy/Mark for organizing, everyone else fo great stuff. Looking at all of this, we have a real chance to make an impact&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Amy: open letter numbers are rising. Last I checked, almost 800. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:45HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:46&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;jon:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Statistics&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Statistics&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:46jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:46&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: update the wiki page, hit edit, if you run into trouble we can help.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: hasn&amp;#39;t been updated for a few days, every now and hten come in and update.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: have these stretching back since our first letter, very valuable resource. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:46HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:47&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Amy: Mark, if you could send me the OFA posting.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: blog post with open letter.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark: fine &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:47HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:47&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: those who want to discuss google wave, plese stay&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Forest: thanks so much everyone, I appreciate your owrk&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Amy: hope you get a sense for who we are&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Forest: I do &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:47HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:48&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Forest: ever since I started getting FB about GFR thought it&amp;#39;d be a good tool. Unfortuante part is it&amp;#39;s invite only now.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: now enough invites to help, I got another dozen to give out today. Anyone who has a gmail account probably has an invite htere waiting for htem, enough hubs.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Forest: that or it eventually will. Beome mainstream soon enough&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: very buggy though, today virtually unusuable &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:48HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:49&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: quick descriptiona bout wave, feel free to correct me where you see differnetly&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: google describes wave as what would email be like if it was invented in 2010&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: I don&amp;#39;t think it&amp;#39;s a great description. See it as a great place to do collaborate documents wiht discussions &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:49HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:50&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: GFR has always been failry good at htis for a distributed group, doign open letters, doing script for videos, but it&amp;#39;s like pullin teeth to do.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: wave could make that much more effective. Coudl also solve problem about one place to go that&amp;#39;s easy for anyone to update to see waht&amp;#39;s going on for team members, people working on this&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: wiki coudl theoretically solve it, but in practice it&amp;#39;s too hard to use for too many people&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Forest: i&amp;#39;m more of an HTML coder, not a fan of wiki&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: most poeple aren&amp;#39;t HTML coders&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Forest: why I think wiki is impractical. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:50HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:50&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: wave is very clunky, will get better, easy to show people how to use it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: if we decide to use it will rpoably wind up doing soem training sessions&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: huge problem with using wave, doesn&amp;#39;t work with internet explorer, firefox, chorme and windows. Locks a lot of poeple out.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: worth exploring to see if this is something we can use &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:50HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:51&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: if it&amp;#39;s something you are intersted in exploring we&amp;#39;ll get you an invite&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: set up a basic Fisa wave you can find&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Amy: cool, I didn&amp;#39;t know that&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:51HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:51&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;jon:&lt;/div&gt;with:public:patrioact &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:51jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:51&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;jon:&lt;/div&gt;with:public:patriotact &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:51jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:52&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: once we get there you can also send link to wave&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: other way GFR cna use this as a tech publicity stunt&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: basically our claim to fame is because a bunch of prog bloggers found a place where organizing a decent but not extraodinary amount of poeple on line could get a lot of attention &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:52HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:52&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Amy Ringenbach:&lt;/div&gt;if you already have a Google wave invite, do look for   with:public:patriotact &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:52Amy Ringenbach&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:53&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: 8,000 people about by the time we started hitting major media. Lot was timing of course.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: online campaigns that have organized a million people that havne gotten no attnetion&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: bar low to get noticed&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;JOn: wave has same characteristics, maybe not now beacuse it&amp;#39;s too buggy, couldn&amp;#39;t get 10,000 in a wave, but Jan Feb when this starts coming on, if we do first big activism wave and get 10s aof thosuands, would type into allt he hype on wave &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:53HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:54&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Harry: Evan Bayh FB group copied, became big thing, able to get news out same way&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: Max Bernstein had set up a group for Evan Bayh FB group, could track the effect it had on conventional wisdom by in trade market. Only had 4,000 people involved, was shocking.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: during election campaign, not same conditions, but looking for that is jsut a great opportunity &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:54HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:54&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: sending Mark a google wave invite &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:54HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:55&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Amy: when you see it first, tough to get a handle on it. Kind of intuitive. Once you find people that you know you figure out how to use it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Amy: curious beast &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:55HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:55&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mark: two issues, usaually the case with me. Where do I go, and how do I use it hwen I get htere.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:55HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:56&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mark: email to me is arpanet. I was an orginal member of it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;jon: part of what makes wave so intersting. Google has this really intesting mix.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: Vince Serf who invested IT protocal are there. Lots of kids out of college or 30. Designign a system working for eveyrone at their company.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: very good at taking that in mind. Right now doesn&amp;#39;t paly particularly nicely with email though. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:56HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:57&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: all kinds of complications. still, might prove too hard for most of us to use, which means google is screwed which is their problem, or too buggy to use effctively.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: not saying it&amp;#39;s necessairly a great way forward, but very much worht investigating.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;forest: get in on groudn floor when it opens up&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: i&amp;#39;m chariing comptuers freedom and privacy this June, trying to use google wave in conunciton with twitter for backchannel of the conference. Google will work with us to mkae it privacy freindly.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: right now you are selling your soul to google ot use it. Any account you want, but will be tracked from somewhere if you do.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: longer temr better answers for htat &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:57HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:57&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Amy: sending Mark and invite now. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:57HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:58&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;jon:&lt;/div&gt;open letter wave: &lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttps://wave.google.com/wave/#restored:wave:googlewave.com&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;https://wave.google.com/wave/#restored:wave:googlewave.com&lt;/a&gt;!w%252BdHtUnZLkE &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:58jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;4:59&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mark: waht we did on OFA, I sent out in various group blogs and in emails to the groups a little thing describing and linking to the BORDC page and the &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://chagne.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;chagne.org&lt;/a&gt; page.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark: there&amp;#39;s no where that I know of actually on OFA that you can sign a petition&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: we debated about whether to do that and decided not to for the time being&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Amy: ok, wanted to know where link was to get a sense for the repsondents&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: no way of doing that &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20094:59HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;5:00&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mark: thing I sent out after discussions saturday got a huge wave of response. Got emails, served it&amp;#39;s purpose.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: it was a story&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark: served its purpose of waking up the OFA/GFR group which to my konwledge had never int eh last 6 months given any response to anything we had done&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark: all of a sudden that story unjouranlistic as it turned out to be really woke them up&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20095:00HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;5:00&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Amy: when I get off the call will dig into other sites and get the counts&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: stats page set up nicely, links to all the places, boom, click click click, get all the numbers &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20095:00HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;5:03&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: thanks for everyone for sticking around&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Amy: when I finish editing I&amp;#39;ll send Mark/Jon/Harry the clips so you guys can take a look at it. Wondering where on the hub you want us to put them so as we begin to do the big media push we can pepper our press push with these clips from the Cato debate before it becomes a dead issue.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: 1st of all, drop link in a comment on the blog. When 3 of us are busy we want others to see it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: as Harry gets library up that&amp;#39;s where we&amp;#39;ll want it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: write up instructions for adding to libraries.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: Forest, wetpaint is noticeably friendlier than other wikis. Optimized for adding media in. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20095:03HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;5:03&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;jon:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://www.thepetitionsite.com/petition/899417535&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.thepetitionsite.com/petition/899417535&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20095:03jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;5:04&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;jon:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://www.change.org/get_fisa_right/actions/view/get_fisa_rights_open_letter_to_president_obama&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.change.org/get_fisa_right/actions/view/get_fisa_rights_open_letter_to_president_obama&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20095:04jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;5:04&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: everybody, as going aroudn looking atpetitions on other sites, notice what you like/don&amp;#39;t like.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: may choose to focus our energy on one or the other.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: look at care2 version, it&amp;#39;s very nice in that a lot of poeple have added hsort personal comments. That I think make things much stornger. &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://change.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;change.org&lt;/a&gt; you get picture of most of hte poeple hwo have signed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: these are all people we can potentially follow up with. Also, as we are sending poeple to the pages, which are the ones that look the best. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20095:04HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;5:05&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Great call everyone, take care! &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20095:05HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;5:05&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;jon:&lt;/div&gt;GREAT call! &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20095:05jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;5:06&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;tw3k:&lt;/div&gt;Good work everyone, the call was a nice introduction &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20095:06tw3k&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;5:13&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text &quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Amy Ringenbach:&lt;/div&gt;Just found the GetFISARight wave. Woohoo &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  8, 20095:13Amy Ringenbach&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;                      &lt;div class=&quot;chatbotttom&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;hr size=&quot;1&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;</description></item><item><title>December 8 Organizing Call</title><link>http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/December+8+Organizing+Call</link><author>JonPincus</author><guid isPermaLink="false">http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/December+8+Organizing+Call</guid><comments>fiddle with agenda order</comments><pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:19:37 CST</pubDate><description>&lt;table align=&quot;bottom&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; class=&quot;WPC-edit-style-none WPC-edit-border-none WPC-edit-styleData-color1=%23ebebeb&amp;color2=%23c7c7c7&quot; width=&quot;100%&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;19%&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;center&quot; bgcolor=&quot;#a8f7c9&quot; class=&quot;WPC-edit-custom-bgColor&quot; width=&quot;63%&quot;&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;4&quot;&gt;Promoting our Open Letter: A Patriot Act and FISA reform organizing call&lt;br&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tuesday: 3:30 pm PST/6:30 pm EST&lt;br&gt;Dialin:                                                                              1-219-509-8111 Access code:                                     705723&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You are cordially invited to a phone call and online chat to discuss the fight to fix the Patriot Act and FISA.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Please join in pre-meeting discussions &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://getfisaright.wordpress.com/2009/10/25/continuing-the-conversation/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;on the Get FISA RIght blog&lt;/a&gt; or in the chat room below!&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;17%&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;bottom&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; class=&quot;WPC-edit-style-grid1 WPC-edit-border-all WPC-edit-styleData-color1=%23ebebeb&amp;color2=%23c7c7c7&quot; width=&quot;100%&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;50%&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Goals&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Discern legislative situation&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Discuss Amy&amp;#39;s Specter oureach and jumpstart Pennsylvania effort generally&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Go over communications strategies&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Commence media outreach&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;b&gt;Draft Agenda&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Legislative situation: what&amp;#39;s going on with the continuing resolution? (5-10 min)&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;2010 strategy going forward (10-15 min)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Pennsylvania primary: meeting with Specter and upcoming Sestak outreach (10-15 min)&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Online meeting during (Amy, thoughts on this?)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Promoting &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://act.ly/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;act.ly&lt;/a&gt; petition to Specter/Sestak&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Next steps for producing a video: brainstorm and discussion (10-15 min)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Media outreach: going through and dividing up media contact lists (10-15 min)&lt;br&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;For those who can stay on later we will be conducting a tweetchat for twitter outreach to media, while others will be emailing and calling&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#ffa500&quot;&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#333333&quot;&gt;Resources&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://getfisaright.wordpress.com/2009/12/06/end-of-the-year-patriot-act-strategy-thinking-please-discuss/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;End of the year Patriot Act Strategy Thinking&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Open letter&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://getfisaright.wordpress.com/2009/11/22/final-draft-of-our-open-letter-to-obama/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; final version&lt;br&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Media+Contact+List&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;Media contact list&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Latest &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/6dDgAH&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Suggested Tweets&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;50%&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;hr size=&quot;1&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;</description></item><item><title>December 3 Cato Institute Tweetchat log</title><link>http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/December+3+Cato+Institute+Tweetchat+log</link><author>Hwaisbren</author><guid isPermaLink="false">http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/December+3+Cato+Institute+Tweetchat+log</guid><pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 11:29:56 CST</pubDate><description>&lt;br&gt;Further notes available in Mark Doerelster&amp;#39;s chatterous &lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Dec+3+Cato+Mark+notes&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;log of the event&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:15&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Welcome to the Tweetchat everyone! Make sure to let us know if you have any questions. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 200912:15HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:34&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/HarryWaisbren&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;RT @GetFISARight: Here are our suggested tweets on our Open Letter to Obama to fix the &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/6dDgAH&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/6dDgAH&lt;/a&gt; #p2 #tlot &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 200912:34HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg readercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:34&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext viewer_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinecommentname&quot;&gt;[Comment From JimB. JimB.:]&lt;/div&gt;If you want me to produce, I can until something like 5:30, when I have to get in a car &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 200912:34JimB.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:35&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Any time you have available would be great Jim! As always, it&amp;#39;s much appreciated. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 200912:35HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:37&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Hegemommy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Hegemommy:&lt;/div&gt;RT @GetFISARight: Here are our suggested tweets on our Open Letter to Obama to fix the &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/6dDgAH&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/6dDgAH&lt;/a&gt; #p2 #tlot &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 200912:37Hegemommy&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg readercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:38&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext viewer_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinecommentname&quot;&gt;[Comment From JimB. JimB.:]&lt;/div&gt;Not sure when I&amp;#39;ll leave. Depends on traffic and how enthralling Cato is at that point. I should leave some time tween 5:30-5:50. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 200912:38JimB.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:40&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jim Burrows:&lt;/div&gt;Do you know if there are any twitter hash tags associated wit the event?&lt;br&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 200912:40Jim Burrows&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:41&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Not that I know of. Julian has been promoting the tweetchat and linking to us though, so I&amp;#39;m presuming #patriotact is the way to go. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 200912:41HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:42&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jim Burrows:&lt;/div&gt;Cool&lt;br&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 200912:42Jim Burrows&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:42&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/BleuZ00m&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;BleuZ00m:&lt;/div&gt;@wegoted @maddow Heads up: FISA &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; Action Hub 1pm PST/4pm EST today:Live Tweetchat  w/the @CatoInstitute : &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/Qq5VE&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/Qq5VE&lt;/a&gt; #p2 &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 200912:42BleuZ00m&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:45&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Cato has picked up quite a cast for this event:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Featuring Julian Sanchez, Research Fellow, Cato Institute; Gregory Nojeim, Senior Counsel, The Center for Democracy and Technology; Jena Baker McNeill, Homeland Security Policy Analyst, The Heritage Foundation; and Richard Samp, Chief Counsel, Washington Legal Foundation. Moderated by Tim Lynch, Director, Project on Criminal Justice, Cato Institute. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 200912:45HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:48&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;The fact that it&amp;#39;s a debate should be particularly entertaining. I&amp;#39;ll be looking for who&amp;#39;s winning against the &amp;quot;Deceptacons Jena Baker McNeil of Heritage and Richard Samp of the Washington Legal Foundation&amp;quot; (as Julian &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/12/03/the-great-debate/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;refers to them&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;br&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 200912:48HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:50&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;And for anyone joining us who has yet to do so, we hope you&amp;#39;ll help sign on to our Open Letter to the President to fix the Patriot Act (through any/all of these ways):&lt;br&gt; &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/498/p/dia/action/public/index.sjs?action_KEY=1775&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;sign on via BORDC&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://www.change.org/get_fisa_right/actions/view/get_fisa_rights_open_letter_to_president_obama&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;sign on via change.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://www.thepetitionsite.com/petition/899417535&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;sign on via Care2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://act.ly/1fp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;sign on via Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 200912:50HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:52&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/logicalextremes&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;logicalextremes:&lt;/div&gt;Ask @BarackObama to support &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; reform! - &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://act.ly/1fp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://act.ly/1fp&lt;/a&gt; - Please RT &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 200912:52logicalextremes&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:52&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/blanksslate&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;blanksslate:&lt;/div&gt;@normative &amp;#39;s &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; policy forum at @catoinstitute. Join us. Then @reasonmag for festivus activities &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 200912:52blanksslate&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:54&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jim Burrows:&lt;/div&gt;I assume no one is seeing any feed on their site yet?&lt;br&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 200912:54Jim Burrows&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:54&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;I&amp;#39;m not &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 200912:54HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg readercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:54&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext viewer_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinecommentname&quot;&gt;[Comment From korkie korkie:]&lt;/div&gt;afternoon &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 200912:54korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:55&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Hey there Korkie &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 200912:55HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:55&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jim Burrows:&lt;/div&gt;Hi, Korkie&lt;br&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 200912:55Jim Burrows&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:55&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/BleuZ00m&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;BleuZ00m:&lt;/div&gt;@strandedwind @GWBProsecution Heads up: FISA &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; 1pm PST/4pm EST today:Live Tweetchat w/the @CatoInstitute : &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/Qq5VE&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/Qq5VE&lt;/a&gt; #p2 &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 200912:55BleuZ00m&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:55&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/miss_eli&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;miss_eli:&lt;/div&gt;RT @ARLpolicy @CatoInstitute hosting a (sadly rare) public discussion of &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; reform this afternoon @ 4pm EST. &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/5xBTdb&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/5xBTdb&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 200912:55miss_eli&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:56&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;I&amp;#39;m not sure why, but it there are some tweets to #patriotact are not being relayed here while others are. Seems like a problem on Cover it Live&amp;#39;s end... &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 200912:56HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:56&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jim Burrows:&lt;/div&gt;Yuh. Never saw onw of mine. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 200912:56Jim Burrows&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:56&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;I don&amp;#39;t think this has happened before &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 200912:56HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:56&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jim Burrows:&lt;/div&gt;... one of ...&lt;br&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 200912:56Jim Burrows&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:57&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie: &lt;/div&gt;what&amp;#39;s the Cato link please? &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 200912:57korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:57&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jim Burrows:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://www.cato.org/event.php?eventid=6792&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.cato.org/event.php?eventid=6792&lt;/a&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 200912:57Jim Burrows&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:57&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Well, there is a decent amount of traffic to #patriotact as this event is coming up: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/#search?q=%23patriotact&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23patriotact&lt;/a&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 200912:57HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:57&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/BleuZ00m&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;BleuZ00m:&lt;/div&gt;@thecaucus (reminder) Heads up: FISA &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; 1pm PST/4pm EST today:Live Tweetchat w/the @CatoInstitute : &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/Qq5VE&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/Qq5VE&lt;/a&gt; #p2 &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 200912:57BleuZ00m&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:59&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @BleuZ00m: @thecaucus (reminder) Heads up: FISA &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; 1pm PST/4pm EST today:Live Tweetchat w/the @CatoInstitute : &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly&lt;/a&gt; ... &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 200912:59korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:59&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Regardless of whether the tweets are relayed here, we can still coordinate what we want to be tweeting out.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The key is summarizing and spreading word of htis event, especially in case some enterprising blogger or journalist wants to pick up the ball on a major story far too few have been covering.... &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 200912:59HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:01&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jim Burrows:&lt;/div&gt;Just refreshed Firefox manually and have a feed &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:01Jim Burrows&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:01&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie: &lt;/div&gt;I think I may be re tweeting the long way. I hit the tweet icon on this page, it takes me to twitter and then I hit the rt button there. right? &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:01korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:01&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie: &lt;/div&gt;brb &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:01korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:02&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Korkie, It might be easier to have a separate window or tab open for Twitter. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:02HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:02&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;And I have video as well &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:02HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:03&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie: &lt;/div&gt;so, i&amp;#39;ll have three windows open then, correct? &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:03korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:03&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jim Burrows:&lt;/div&gt;The player is bogging down in Firefox, but Safari is crisp.&lt;br&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:03Jim Burrows&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:04&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie: &lt;/div&gt;Is there suppose to be something happening on the Cato link? &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:04korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:04&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Yup. We&amp;#39;re looking at ways to combine all of this into 1 ideally (the action hub with embedded video and a way to tweet right from there) &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:04HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:04&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;There&amp;#39;s video at the Cato link, but no sound yet. seems like they are setting up still. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:04HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:05&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jim Burrows:&lt;/div&gt;There is video on the Cato link but I had to manually refresh the page to see it.&lt;br&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:05Jim Burrows&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:05&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie: &lt;/div&gt;You have obviously over estimated my skills on the computer. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:05korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:06&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Hegemommy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Hegemommy:&lt;/div&gt;RT @GetFISARight: Watch  @Catoinstitute &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event here: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/6AVbjJ&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/6AVbjJ&lt;/a&gt; Discuss &amp;amp; act here: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/Qq5VE&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/Qq5VE&lt;/a&gt; #privacy #tlot &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:06Hegemommy&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:07&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;hmmm. are you not seeing a video box (below the &amp;quot;featuring&amp;quot; and above the event explanation text)? &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:07HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:07&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Introductions beginnning &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:07HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:07&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jim Burrows:&lt;/div&gt;On the Cato web page hit ctrl/r or cmd/r if you are on a Mac.&lt;br&gt;You should get video and now audio.&lt;br&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:07Jim Burrows&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:07&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;&amp;quot;debate in congerss hasn&amp;#39;t been a front page news story. Obama signalled that he wanted all provisions renewed&amp;quot;. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:07HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:08&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;&amp;quot;seems clear that the patriot act will be renewed in some form in the near future. If not, by the end of hte year, some kind of extension, early next year&amp;quot;. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:08HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:08&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Quotes from Tim Lynch, moderating &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:08HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:08&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @Hegemommy: RT @GetFISARight: Here are our suggested tweets on our Open Letter to Obama to fix the &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/6dDgAH&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/6dDgAH&lt;/a&gt;  ... &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:08korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:09&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Lynch: what are proper parameters of gov policie powers. Can&amp;#39;t have dispassioned debat when there are confusions about waht certain laws and policies do &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:09HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:12&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;rt @Brons &amp;quot;All the cool kids&amp;quot; will be at the Cato &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event declares @normative! Well, either there or the (cont) &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://tl.gd/15267&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://tl.gd/15267&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:12korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:12&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/GetFISARight&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;GetFISARight:&lt;/div&gt;Tim Lynch of @CatoInstitute: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; debate in congress hasnt been a front page news story. Obama signaled he wanted provisions renewed. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:12GetFISARight&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:12&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/GetFISARight&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;GetFISARight:&lt;/div&gt;Lynch of @CatoInstitute: seems clear that the &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; will be renewed in some form in the near future. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:12GetFISARight&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:12&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Glad to hear Lynch saying that the FISA impact will be discussed as well! &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:12HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:14&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @GetFISARight: Lynch of @CatoInstitute: seems clear that the &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; will be renewed in some form in the near future. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:14korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:14&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Julian: wnat to takea  step back nad put these disparate powers in the contxeet of a larger shift in the contours of American surveillance law.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Julian: do need a narrow debate about the policies. Tehsee standards need to be understood int he context of a more genearl change in thew ay we do intelligence collection. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:14HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:15&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Julian: shift I have in mind from surveillance of particular suspects ot populations. to monitoring communiations to sophisticated sorting of communication streams &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:15HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:15&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Julian: debate over patriot act tends to be framed over hte apporporaite scope of the gov&amp;#39;s power to spy on terorirsts. this is wrong. when we have evidnece that someone is linked to terrorism, ahve a panopoly of incredibly powerful and broad tools.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Julian: powers we are concerned about here today are powers to spy on people who are not terrorists. Justice Departemnt fairly open about this. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:15HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:17&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jim Burrows:&lt;/div&gt;This focus on non-terrorists is really important. I like very much the way he starting. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:17Jim Burrows&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:17&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;Julian (@normative) is starting with at with a good overview. Points out that USA PATRIOT Act covers spying on non-terrorists &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:17Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:17&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/GetFISARight&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;GetFISARight:&lt;/div&gt;Julian Sanchez @normative: put these disparate powers in the context of a larger shift in the contours of US surveillance law. &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:17GetFISARight&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:18&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;sanchez: you are all probably carrying a miniature surveillance device &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:18HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:18&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Sanchez: need to talk more seriously about what happens to that data &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:18HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:19&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Sanchez: our capacity to fruitfully collect and analyze massive amounts of data has grown iwth both technology and the sophistication of our anayltic mathatmetic tools&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sanchez: capable of sorting and collating informaitona bout populations to narrow down to particular targets &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:19HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:19&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;@normative you are all probably carrying a miniature tracking device (waves iPhone) &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:19Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:19&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/GetFISARight&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;GetFISARight:&lt;/div&gt;Sanchez aka @normative: standards need 2 be understood in context of more general change in way we do intelligence collection. &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:19GetFISARight&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:20&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/GetFISARight&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;GetFISARight:&lt;/div&gt;Sanchez aka @normative: shift I have in mind from surveillance of particular suspects to populations. &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:20GetFISARight&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:20&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @Brons: @normative you are all probably carrying a miniature tracking device (waves iPhone) &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:20korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:22&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @GetFISARight: Sanchez aka @normative: shift I have in mind from surveillance of particular suspects to populations. &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:22korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:22&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/GetFISARight&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;GetFISARight:&lt;/div&gt;Sanchez aka @normative: powers we&amp;#39;re concerned about are powers 2 spy on people who arent terrorists. DOJ fairly open about this &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:22GetFISARight&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:22&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;@normative gives an excellent run down on implications of data mining and analysis &amp;amp; the HUGE amount of data on non-terrorists &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:22Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:22&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/GetFISARight&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;GetFISARight:&lt;/div&gt;Sanchez aka @normative: you are all probably carrying a miniature surveillance device &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:22GetFISARight&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:22&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/GetFISARight&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;GetFISARight:&lt;/div&gt;Sanchez aka @normative: need to talk more seriously about what happens to that data after it&amp;#39;s collected. &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:22GetFISARight&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:22&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/digiphile&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;digiphile:&lt;/div&gt;Julian Sanchez (@normative) focuses on the use of the &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; for surveillance of non-terrorists. Debate at @latimes: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://j.mp/6sYwAF&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://j.mp/6sYwAF&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:22digiphile&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:22&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Sanchez on FISA shift: shift form specific targets to algorithsym for targeting. abstract characteristics deciding who can be surveilled. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:22HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:23&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Sanchez: default should not be government unfettered power&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sanhcez: insist on explanation for why safeguards are unacceptable &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:23HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:23&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/GetFISARight&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;GetFISARight:&lt;/div&gt;Sanchez aka @normative: Sanchez: our capacity to fruitfully collect and analyze massive amounts of data has grown. &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:23GetFISARight&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:23&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/GetFISARight&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;GetFISARight:&lt;/div&gt;Sanchez aka @normative: capable of sorting and collating info about populations to narrow down to particular targets. &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:23GetFISARight&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:23&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Sanchez: causes of intellgience failure not inadequate power, but structurla problems in intelligence agencies &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:23HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:26&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/GetFISARight&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;GetFISARight:&lt;/div&gt;Sanchez aka @normative: insist on explanation for why safeguards are unacceptable. &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:26GetFISARight&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:26&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @GetFISARight: Tim Lynch of @CatoInstitute: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; debate in congress hasnt been a front page news story. Obama signaled he want ... &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:26korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:26&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Sanchez: if you look at the history of abuses of intelligence powers, it is in fact overwhelmingly that political funciton that has been imperlled by misuse of surveillance powers&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sancehz: with more structural take in mind, I thinkw e need to consider not jsut what are the harms that migh accure now, but what are the archetecture of control.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sanchez: consistent with strucutre of govnerment asosicated iwht free poeple (applause) &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:26HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:26&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jim Burrows:&lt;/div&gt;Allow me to say:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; WOW!!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That was really good! &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:26Jim Burrows&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:29&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/GetFISARight&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;GetFISARight:&lt;/div&gt;Sanchez aka @normative: history of abuses of intelligence powers, overwhelmingly democratic discourse imperiled by misuse. &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:29GetFISARight&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:30&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;That was quite a speech from Julian! &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:30HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:30&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Wore me out chronicling it and attempting to tweet it out at the same time. Don&amp;#39;t believe I&amp;#39;ll be able to keep up that pace sadly :) &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:30HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:32&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;Gregory Nojeim starts his CATO &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; talk on the matter of National Security Letters &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:32Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:32&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @Brons: Gregory Nojeim starts his CATO &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; talk on the matter of National Security Letters &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:32korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:33&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/digiphile&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;digiphile:&lt;/div&gt;FISA Amendment Act shifted from targeting individuals to algorithms, says @normative. H.R.6304: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://j.mp/8ehvOC&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://j.mp/8ehvOC&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:33digiphile&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:33&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/GetFISARight&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;GetFISARight:&lt;/div&gt;Gregory Nojeim of @CenDemTech speaking at @Catoinstitute &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event now &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:33GetFISARight&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:34&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @GetFISARight: Gregory Nojeim of @CenDemTech speaking at @Catoinstitute &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event now &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:34korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:34&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;Greg Nojeim lists the many limitations that have been removed from National Security Letters  at CATO &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; talk &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:34Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:34&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Great job with the summary tweets Jim! I&amp;#39;m off to RT from @GetFISARight &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:34HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:34&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/GetFISARight&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;GetFISARight:&lt;/div&gt;Just joining us? Watch @Catoinstitute &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event here: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/6AVbjJ&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/6AVbjJ&lt;/a&gt; Discuss &amp;amp; act here: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/Qq5VE&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/Qq5VE&lt;/a&gt; #tlot #p2 &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:34GetFISARight&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:34&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @GetFISARight: Just joining us? Watch @Catoinstitute &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event here: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/6AVbjJ&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/6AVbjJ&lt;/a&gt; Discuss &amp;amp; act here: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/Q&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/Q&lt;/a&gt; ... &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:34korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:34&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;Greg Nojeim @Catoinstitute &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event: NSLs don&amp;#39;t expire this year, but they MUST be addressed &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:34Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:34&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @Brons: Greg Nojeim lists the many limitations that have been removed from National Security Letters  at CATO &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; talk &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:34korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:34&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jim Burrows:&lt;/div&gt;OK, But I was using your stuff to do it from.&lt;br&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:34Jim Burrows&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:35&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jim Burrows:&lt;/div&gt;Having notes here really helps. Sigh. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:35Jim Burrows&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:35&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @Brons: Greg Nojeim @Catoinstitute &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event: NSLs don&amp;#39;t expire this year, but they MUST be addressed &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:35korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:35&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/GetFISARight&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;GetFISARight:&lt;/div&gt;RT @Brons: Gregory Nojeim starts his CATO &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; talk on the matter of National Security Letters &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:35GetFISARight&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:36&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Very true &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:36HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:36&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/GetFISARight&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;GetFISARight:&lt;/div&gt;RT @Brons: Greg Nojeim lists the many limitations that have been removed from National Security Letters at CATO &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; talk &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:36GetFISARight&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:36&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/GetFISARight&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;GetFISARight:&lt;/div&gt;RT @Brons: Greg Nojeim @Catoinstitute &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event: NSLs don&amp;#39;t expire this year, but they MUST be addressed &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:36GetFISARight&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:36&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Nojeim: patriot act changed existing laws in two ways. expands records that coudl be sought form travle records and storage records to anything. Expanded class of humans about whom records could be sought. Now 215 orders can be used about everyone &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:36HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:37&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Nojeim: what can congress do? ought to be some tie between the records sought and the agent of a foreign power, or someone in contact with agent of a foreign power.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nojeim: only provision i&amp;#39;d put on the repeal agenda is lone wolf &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:37HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:38&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Nojeim: Lone wolf, can do same surveillance, under the criminal authorities. no conduct, no crime, that is available for use under lone wolf authority not also avialalbe under authority of criminal statutes that already exist. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:38HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:39&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/digiphile&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;digiphile:&lt;/div&gt;Gregory Nojeim of @CenDemTech: record of misuse of National Security Letters needs to be addressed. &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://epic.org/privacy/nsl&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://epic.org/privacy/nsl&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:39digiphile&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:39&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Nojeim: at the end of hte day, every patirotact power is wielded by mere humans, wiht human frailties, who make mistakes. we have three brnaches of govenrment, a branch to protect our rights, and it&amp;#39;s time to have a patriotact that protects our rights too. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:39HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:40&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jim---if you tweet from Brons I can RT from GFR and keep taking these notes &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:40HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:40&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;Nojeim @Catoinstitute &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event: NSLs &amp;amp; sec 215 records need to be tied in some way to a terrorist or an enemy agent. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:40Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:40&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mcneil of Heritage coming up &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:40HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:41&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mcneil: want to start iwhta  few upfront statmeents that I think need to be made. Insuring that our intellignece and security frameowrks keep americans free, safe, and prosperous is one that everyone shares. No one in this room wants another 9/11.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mcneil: powers must be met wiht adequate safeguards and rigiourous oversight form all brnaches of gov &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:41HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:41&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;Nojeim @Catoinstitute &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event:  Lone Wolf is the 1 provision I would repeal. It is redundant. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:41Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:41&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @Brons: Nojeim @Catoinstitute &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event:  Lone Wolf is the 1 provision I would repeal. It is redundant. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:41korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:42&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mcneil: 3 questions. has patriotact been successful and will it continue to be. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mcneil: terorists often manipulate our own liberites against us. we will never completely have an accurate picture of what steps could ahve prevented 9/11, but what we do know is that before 9/11 it was difficult ot connect the dots.&lt;br&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:42HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:42&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mcnei: upgrades have paid off, helped us modernize our intelligence framework &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:42HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:43&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jim, why not cite that @heritage when talking about Mcneil (she&amp;#39;s not a part of Cato) &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:43HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:43&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mcneil: since 2001 there have been at least 27 plots foiled against US. From shoe bomber plot ot Zazi, to skyscraper plot &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:43HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg readercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:43&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext viewer_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinecommentname&quot;&gt;[Comment From jon jon:]&lt;/div&gt;hi all, my previous phone call ran long ... &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:43jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:43&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jim Burrows:&lt;/div&gt;Dunno.&lt;br&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:43Jim Burrows&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:44&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mcneil: 2000 indiviudals in britain alone directly connected to terorirst plots. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:44HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:44&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mcneil: section 215, business records provision, helps track day to day actions of terroirst networks &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:44HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:44&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/BleuZ00m&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;BleuZ00m:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; Now up: Jenna McNeill/Heritage Foundation: Invoking 9/11, &amp;#39;these upgrades have paid off.&amp;#39; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:44BleuZ00m&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:44&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @BleuZ00m: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; Now up: Jenna McNeill/Heritage Foundation: Invoking 9/11, &amp;#39;these upgrades have paid off.&amp;#39; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:44korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:44&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;No worries Jon (sorry it took a while to see your comment) &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:44HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:46&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mcneil: lone wolf lack of use is evidence that lawmakers aren&amp;#39;t overusing. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:46HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:46&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;Mcneil &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt;: Mcneil: since 2001 there have been at least 27 plots foiled against US. From shoe bomber plot 2 Zazi, 2 skyscraper plot &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:46Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:46&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/BleuZ00m&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;BleuZ00m:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; Jenna McNeill/Heritage Foundation defends the &amp;quot;Lone Wolf and Section 215 ( business records) and roving wiretaps.&amp;quot; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:46BleuZ00m&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:46&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;Mcneil @Catoinstitute &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event: section 215, business records provision, helps track day to day actions of terroirst networks &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:46Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:46&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @Brons: Mcneil @Catoinstitute &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event: section 215, business records provision, helps track day to day actions of terroirst ... &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:46korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:47&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mcneil: judiciary signifanct source of oversight. All sorts of provisiosn to make sure these things aren&amp;#39;t blank checks&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;woww....... &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:47HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:47&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mcneil: need to look at the costs and the benfits. Adding more govenrmetn and more bureacracy to more govenrmetn and more beauracracy doesn&amp;#39;t make sense of rhte kick of it. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:47HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:47&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mcneil: more than what is required in a criminal setting and the constitution, seems to be of marginal benefit to add even more.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mcneil: begs real quetsion of whether there is a need. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:47HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:48&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @BleuZ00m: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; Jenna McNeill/Heritage Foundation defends the &amp;quot;Lone Wolf and Section 215 ( business records) and roving wiretaps.&amp;quot; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:48korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:48&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;McNeil @Catoinstitute &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event: claims that FIS requires &amp;quot;probable cause&amp;quot;. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:48Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:48&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @Brons: McNeil @Catoinstitute &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event: claims that FIS requires &amp;quot;probable cause&amp;quot;. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:48korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:48&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;McNeil @Catoinstitute &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event: lone wolf lack of use is evidence that lawmakers aren&amp;#39;t overusing. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:48Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:48&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mcnei: several costs. Adding more restrictiosn isn&amp;#39;t free. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mcneil: significant cost of undermining the law. Biggest cost of all. Run risk of chilling hands of investigators to do their job. Second, run ruisk that terorirsts will see gap to exploit. Terrorists are creative. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:48HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:49&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @Brons: McNeil @Catoinstitute &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event: lone wolf lack of use is evidence that lawmakers aren&amp;#39;t overusing. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:49korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:49&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;McNeil &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event: judiciary signifanct source of oversight. All sorts of provisiosn to make sure these things aren&amp;#39;t blank checks &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:49Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:49&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/digiphile&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;digiphile:&lt;/div&gt;Jena Baker McNeill of @Heritage says &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; &amp;quot;upgrades paid off,&amp;quot; pointing to Lackawanna 6, Portland 7. @LATimes: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://j.mp/5szy62&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://j.mp/5szy62&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:49digiphile&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:49&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @Brons: McNeil &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event: judiciary signifanct source of oversight. All sorts of provisiosn to make sure these things aren&amp;#39;t  ... &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:49korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:49&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mcneil: can play game of adding more layers at each stage. Each layer sends a emssage. Can tkae down the wall that we worked os hard to break down after 9/11. If there are abuses should be remedied immediately. Should only be done with a very careful hand &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:49HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:50&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/BleuZ00m&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;BleuZ00m:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; Jenna McNeill/Heritage Foundation: (her statements deny the abuses of NSLs, roving wiretaps Carnivore actually have been used.) &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:50BleuZ00m&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:50&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @BleuZ00m: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; Jenna McNeill/Heritage Foundation: (her statements deny the abuses of NSLs, roving wiretaps Carnivore actually ... &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:50korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:51&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Richard Samp of Washington Legal Foundation speaking now &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:51HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg readercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:51&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext viewer_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinecommentname&quot;&gt;[Comment From Amy Ringenbach Amy Ringenbach:]&lt;/div&gt;#PatriotAct Jenna McNeill/Heritage Foundation: (her statements deny the abuses of NSLs, roving wiretaps Carnivore actually have been used.) &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:51Amy Ringenbach&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:51&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;McNeil @Catoinstitute event: claims that many &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; processes have more limits than what is required in a criminal setting &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:51Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:51&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @Brons: McNeil @Catoinstitute event: claims that many &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; processes have more limits than what is required in a criminal setting &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:51korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:51&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/hellrazr&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;hellrazr:&lt;/div&gt;RT @GetFISARight: Sanchez aka @normative: not just harms that might accrue now, but what the arcitechture of control developing. &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:51hellrazr&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:51&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Samp: simply because there is the potnetial of abuse, deosn&amp;#39;t mean we ahve to add additional layers of bureacracy that have hte tendancy to slow down national security investigations iwth sometimes catastrophic results &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:51HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:51&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Samp: minor proivsions up for renewal provides good example, lone wolf. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:51HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:52&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/GetFISARight&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;GetFISARight:&lt;/div&gt;Collaborative livetweeting btw us, @brons, &amp;amp; @korkie. Head to &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; action hub for that &amp;amp; more disc in chat room: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/Qq5VE&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/Qq5VE&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:52GetFISARight&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:52&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;McNeil @Catoinstitute event: The cost of tinkering &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; is that it changes the law and confuses or demoralizes law enforcement &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:52Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:52&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @Brons: McNeil @Catoinstitute event: The cost of tinkering &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; is that it changes the law and confuses or demoralizes law enf ... &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:52korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:52&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @GetFISARight: Collaborative livetweeting btw us, @brons, &amp;amp; @korkie. Head to &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; action hub for that &amp;amp; more disc in chat room ... &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:52korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:52&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Samp: lone wolf allows the government to go after indiviudals even though there isn&amp;#39;t evidence that htey are directly affiliated with some foreign power or some terorirst organizaiton&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Samp: argument that has gone on in the past, is waht about mousavi. Arrested prior to 9/11. Some investigations going on into him, but unfortunately never serach of his comptuer records. Had there been so, some indication that perhaps information regarding the 9/11 plot might have been uncovered in time. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:52HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:53&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/BleuZ00m&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;BleuZ00m:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; Now:Richard Samp, Chief Counsel, Washington Legal Foundation:  &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/6AVbjJ&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/6AVbjJ&lt;/a&gt; Discuss &amp;amp; act here: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/Qq5VE&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/Qq5VE&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:53BleuZ00m&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:54&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @BleuZ00m: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; Now:Richard Samp, Chief Counsel, Washington Legal Foundation:  &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/6AVbjJ&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/6AVbjJ&lt;/a&gt; Discuss &amp;amp; act here: http:/ ... &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:54korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:54&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;Samp @Catoinstitute &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event: potential 4 abuse doesnt require layers of bureaucracy 2 slow down LE &amp;amp; invest, perhaps dangerously. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:54Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:54&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Samp: I&amp;#39;m sure you&amp;#39;ll hear from other speakres arguments as to whose fault was that. No question there was a lot of bureacratic fumbling going on. Arugmetns that it&amp;#39;s not lack of tools, just bungling.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Samp: here tot ell you bureacracy is always a problem with goenrment. never have someone doing the perfect investigation. Why something like the lone wolf provision is an importnat one.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Samp: it has never been used. But if you had a proivsion of htat type, It hink there is no question that someone like Mousavi would ahve been potentially a target of this sort of lone wolf investigation and you could ahve gotten faster access to his recors. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:54HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:54&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @Brons: Samp @Catoinstitute &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event: potential 4 abuse doesnt require layers of bureaucracy 2 slow down LE &amp;amp; invest, perhap ... &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:54korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:55&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Samp: 3 provisions up for renewal. Everyone says &amp;#39;of course there iwll be renewal, no one is oposed to storng nationals ecurity privisons, jstu whta are specific details&amp;#39;. Already an awful lot of safeguards in place in respect ot tehse, and the position of hte Obama administraiton is a storng testament to the existence of adequate safeguads.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Samp: Sen. Obama was not a supporter of Patriot Act when he ran for senate. Was a critic of renewal in 2005. Yet Obama administration has come out strongly in favor of renewal&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jim/Korkie/Amy---please RT this to @barackobama---craziness. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:55HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:55&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;Samp (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): Lone wolf would have allowed fater access to the records of Mousavi &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:55Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:55&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @Brons: Samp (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): Lone wolf would have allowed fater access to the records of Mousavi &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:55korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:56&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;Samp (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): There are already a lot of safeguards and the support of the Obama administraion is evidence that they suffice &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:56Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:56&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Samp: importnat to have discussions of this sort. If we pass the law as currently proposed, will be sunset provision, so in 2013, if there is evidenc of abuse, will be avote on reviewing/reforming/eliminating it.&lt;br&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:56HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:57&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Samp: material support for terrorist organizations. Supreme court took up meaning of this term. has proved to be an important feature of the law.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Samp: lynn stewart serving a jail sentence under it. NY attorney that directly assisted terrorist organiaoin in Egypt by serving as a conduit btw jailed leader and its members back in Egypt. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:57HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:58&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Samp: under Feingold, would say, it&amp;#39;s not so bad to give mateiral support ot these orgs like hamas or al qaeda, so far as you are supporting humanitarian efforts of these groups&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;nasty. this is another point that should definitely be RTed as well.  bet he&amp;#39;s lying through his teeth.... &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:58HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:58&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/BleuZ00m&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;BleuZ00m:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; Now:Richard Samp/Washington Legal Fnd discusses NSL &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://constraints.http//bit.ly/6AVbjJ&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;constraints.http://bit.ly/6AVbjJ&lt;/a&gt; Discuss &amp;amp; act here: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/Qq5VE&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/Qq5VE&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:58BleuZ00m&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:58&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;Samp (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): The Dept. of Justice is in favor of renewal without these additional limitations, and they know the secret stuff &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:58Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:58&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;Samp (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): The Feingold law would hamstring the material support provision. It is a very important part of that law. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:58Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:58&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @Brons: Samp (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): The Feingold law would hamstring the material support provision. It is a very important part of tha ... &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:58korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:58&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Samp: if you provide support for Hamas, even though you tell them you wan it designated for their humanitarian activiites, that is just one more asset that they then have that they can divert to others of their assets to procuring arms and continuing thier terroist assault on Israel.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Samp: really do need to keep many of these provisions in place. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20091:58HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:00&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Samp: sneak and peek provisions in the law basically says that law enforcement people don&amp;#39;t need to tell the target of their investigation that in fact they have started their search activitiy. Tehy can delay it. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Samp: fact is that sneak and peek provision has been in place long before the patriot act was adopted. US supreme court in US vs Dalia said that these types of searches are reasonable seraches nad seizures iswithin the meaning of the 4th amendment.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:00HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:00&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;Samp (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): important to have discussions of this sort. If we pass the law as currently proposed, will be sunsetted &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:00Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:00&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @Brons: Samp (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): important to have discussions of this sort. If we pass the law as currently proposed, will be sunsetted &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:00korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:00&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;Samp (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): if you provide support for Hamas, even designated for their humanitarian activiites it frees resources for terror &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:00Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:01&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie: &lt;/div&gt;i dropped cato link . please post &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:01korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:01&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Julian: upfront, I would normally be delighted to join in fight against more gov and bureacracy as characterization.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Julian: question of intel failures before 9/11, discussion of connecting the dots. Is also one of the thigns patriot act did that isn&amp;#39;t up for debate or on the table now. No one is discussing changing. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:01HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:01&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;it&amp;#39;s at the otp of the page Korkie (in the action hub desciription) &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:01HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:01&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;/div&gt;Korkie, here&amp;#39;s the CATO feed link: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/6AVbjJ&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/6AVbjJ&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:01Amy Ringenbach&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:02&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Julian: problem that you need fewer limitations or power, or did someone screw up. Someone screwed up is unlikely to be the anwer especially when access to details is limited.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Julian: senate investigated what happend with mousavi. Wasn&amp;#39;t judicially imposed wall btw intellignece and criinal investgiaiton. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:02HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:02&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/BleuZ00m&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;BleuZ00m:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; Now: Samp/WashLegalFndn: refutes proposed material support changes re: Lynn Stewart case;defends SneakNPeek. &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/Qq5VE&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/Qq5VE&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:02BleuZ00m&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:02&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Julian: limits have been vastly overstaed. bipartisan senate report concluded that in fact FSIA orde could have een obtained to lack at Mousavi&amp;#39;s computer, a criinal warrant could have, and in fact, on 9/11, before passage of patriot act, they got it togehter and immediatley did obtain with same facturla predicate they had to get a criminal warrant to get Mousavi&amp;#39;s laptop &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:02HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:03&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;Samp (event): fact is that sneak and peek provision has been in place long before the &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; was adopted. SCOTUS in Dalia said its OK &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:03Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:03&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @BleuZ00m: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; Now: Samp/WashLegalFndn: refutes proposed material support changes re: Lynn Stewart case;defends SneakNPeek. h ... &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:03korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:03&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Julian: i&amp;#39;m not sure why we should think lone wolf power would have been used. why would ti ahve been uused if they didn&amp;#39;t use the power they did have? &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:03HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:03&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Julian: serious enough threat without level of inflation we get in some of these discussions&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Another key part to RT (i&amp;#39;m doing it now from GFR) &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:03HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:04&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @Brons: Samp (event): fact is that sneak and peek provision has been in place long before the &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; was adopted. SCOTUS in Dali ... &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:04korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:04&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jima nd Korkie---you two are doing fantastic work here! Keep it up. We&amp;#39;re getting a ton of tweets out :) &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:04HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:05&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;@normative (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): Mousavi, the issue wasn&amp;#39;t a lack of laws. FISA could have been used a crimnal warrant could 2. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:05Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:05&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @BleuZ00m: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; Now:Richard Samp/Washington Legal Fnd discusses NSL &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://constraints.http//bit.ly/6AVbjJ&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;constraints.http://bit.ly/6AVbjJ&lt;/a&gt; Discuss &amp;amp; act here: http: ... &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:05korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:05&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/GetFISARight&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;GetFISARight:&lt;/div&gt;Sanchez aka @normative: there is a serious enough threat without level of inflation we get in some of these discussions. &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:05GetFISARight&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:05&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;@normative (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): why in Mousavi would they have used &amp;quot;Lone Wolf&amp;quot; when they didn&amp;#39;t use the powers that they then had. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:05Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:05&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/digiphile&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;digiphile:&lt;/div&gt;Richard Samp, chief counsel at CLF, argued &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; includes safeguards, allows faster action, DoJ favors renewal w/o more limitations. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:05digiphile&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:05&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @digiphile: Richard Samp, chief counsel at CLF, argued &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; includes safeguards, allows faster action, DoJ favors renewal w/o  ... &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:05korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:05&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/BleuZ00m&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;BleuZ00m:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; Julian Sanchez/CATO states laws, procedures already existed BEFORE 9/11 to track, capture KSM, Lackawanna 6.Intel told us this. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:05BleuZ00m&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:05&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;@normative (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): USA PATRIOT Act would not have improved the visual accuity of the people who saw sum1 lighting his shoe. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:05Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:05&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @Brons: @normative (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): USA PATRIOT Act would not have improved the visual accuity of the people who saw sum1 lightin ... &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:05korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:06&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Julian: what is invariably left out is the differences in the frameowkr of cirminal law and the different framework of FISA surveillance. broader in its inception, and missing the crucial backend check.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Julian: grnad jury subpeona, nexus to an actual crime that is believed to have been committed. Purpose is to acqurie evidecne ofr use in a public trial. Conduct of investigators is exposed. Incentive to behave in a way that will allwo that intellgience to be used. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:06HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:06&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jim Burrows:&lt;/div&gt;last couple were sent in wrong order by me.&lt;br&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:06Jim Burrows&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:06&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Julian: numbers we have are fuzzy becaus teh OIG said that there were 200,000 NSLs issued. Yet becasue fo reporting problems, nubmer was 20% low.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Julian: probelms found were thorugh a tiny subset. Can not meaningfully oversee 200,000 National Security Letters&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;200,000 anotehr great one to RT &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:06HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:07&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;no worries on the order Jim &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:07HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:07&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Nojeim: oversight not a new layer of bureacracy. Judicial permission when very sensitivve records about peopel are being sought by a law enforcement or intellignee agency.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nojeim: has been important protection of people for a long time &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:07HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:07&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;@normative (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): serious enough threat without level of inflation we get in some of these discussions &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:07Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:07&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @Brons: @normative (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): serious enough threat without level of inflation we get in some of these discussions &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:07korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:08&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Nojeim: is sneak and peek a counterterrorism power? I don&amp;#39;t think so, and if it is, it should be limited to counter-terrorism powers. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:08HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:09&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Nojeim: yes, message of mistrust. whole documetn about mistrust of the goverment, it&amp;#39;s called the constiuttion (applause) &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:09HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:09&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;Samp (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): Sneak and peek number don&amp;#39;t bear out the need for new laws for terror. 99.5% of sneak peek not used for terrorism! &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:09Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:10&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @Brons: Samp (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): Sneak and peek number don&amp;#39;t bear out the need for new laws for terror. 99.5% of sneak peek not used ... &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:10korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:10&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @Brons: Samp (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): There is a whole document about mistrust of the gov&amp;#39;t. It&amp;#39;s called the Constitution. That&amp;#39;s the point. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:10korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:10&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Nojeim: don&amp;#39;t think we need to spend a lot of time on lone wolf. Never been used, and by the way, what happened to public reporting.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nojeim: Lone wolf, for years, DOJ said we cna&amp;#39;t tell you how many tiems it has been used, because to review that, would threaten natioanl security. All of a sudden they could tell us, same thin with 215. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:10HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:11&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jim Burrows:&lt;/div&gt;I got names wrong&lt;br&gt;Not SAMP.&lt;br&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:11Jim Burrows&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:11&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Nojeim: could be more disclosure iwthout harming natioanl security &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:11HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:11&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @BleuZ00m: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt;: Sanchez: Potential problems found were thru a tiny subset of NSL letters Can not meaningfully oversee 200,000 ... &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:11korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:11&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;I&amp;#39;d just tweet out quick that the last few were Nojeim. Dont&amp;#39; wrory too much about it &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:11HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:12&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;Nojeim (not Samp) (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): There is a whole document about mistrust of the gov&amp;#39;t. It&amp;#39;s called the Constitution. That&amp;#39;s the point &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:12Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:12&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mcneil: need to look at the natioanl security side. Are poeple who think you don&amp;#39;t need to. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mcneil: about ability of gov to keep secrets, I do think they do keep secrets, and they will whether there is a patriot act or not. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:12HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:12&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mcneil: patriotact encourages honesty, but also encourages us to tackle acts of terrorism. If we don&amp;#39;t have a framewokr, they&amp;#39;ll do it anyways. &lt;br&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:12HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:12&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @Brons: Nojeim (not Samp) (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): There is a whole document about mistrust of the gov&amp;#39;t. It&amp;#39;s called the Constitution. T ... &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:12korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:12&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/digiphile&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;digiphile:&lt;/div&gt;&amp;quot;There is a whole document about mistrust of the government. It&amp;#39;s called the Constitution&amp;quot;-Nojeim on need for &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; judicial oversight &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:12digiphile&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:12&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;McNeil (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): I have a problem when the people who say &amp;quot;we just want to improve it&amp;quot; also hate it &amp;amp; want it gone &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:12Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:13&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;real limitd govenrment supporter htere....gov will spy on everyone anyways, so that&amp;#39;s ok &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:13HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:13&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;heritage must be so proud &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:13HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:13&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @Brons: McNeil (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): I have a problem when the people who say &amp;quot;we just want to improve it&amp;quot; also hate it &amp;amp; want it gone &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:13korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:13&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jim Burrows:&lt;/div&gt;Gad I hate listening to a perky support.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:13Jim Burrows&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:14&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mcneil: lone wolf provision, just becasue we havne&amp;#39;t used it, doens&amp;#39;t mean it&amp;#39;s not valuable&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mcneil: haven&amp;#39;t used president&amp;#39;s nuclear football, but helpful to have it avialable.&lt;br&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:14HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:14&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;/div&gt;#PatriotAct McNeill/Heritage Fndn defends the current FISA provisions:&amp;#39;Just because we&amp;#39;ve never used Lone Wolf is no reason to lose it.&amp;#39; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:14Amy Ringenbach&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:14&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Samp: Mousavi, the problem was that people who were investigating thought theyw ould not be able to get an order from teh FISA court. Others said that was wrong, but that&amp;#39;s what happens when you have bureacracies. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:14HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:14&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;McNeil (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): The USA PATRIOT act is a good framework. It has adequate safeguards, and they&amp;#39;d do it anyway w/o it &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:14Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:14&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @Brons: McNeil (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): The USA PATRIOT act is a good framework. It has adequate safeguards, and they&amp;#39;d do it anyway w/o it &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:14korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:15&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Samp: bureacratic stalemate. People think, if I seek an orer, and the court turns me down, that&amp;#39;s bad for the records, so if it&amp;#39;s all a close case, I won&amp;#39;t seek it &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:15HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:15&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Is Samp completely making up this argument as he&amp;#39;s going on?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;oh, I don&amp;#39;t want to have a court turned me down. I&amp;#39;ll just let the terrorists win because I&amp;#39;m an evil bureacrat (not an american public servant)&amp;quot;. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:15HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:15&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/BleuZ00m&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;BleuZ00m:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; McNeill/Heritage Fndn defends the current FISA provisions:&amp;#39;Just because we&amp;#39;ve never used Lone Wolf is no reason to lose it.&amp;#39; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:15BleuZ00m&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:15&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;McNeil (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): We don&amp;#39;t use the Pres&amp;#39;s Nuclear Football. Not using something says nothing about importance. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:15Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:16&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Samp: latest version of the law has a special provision to make it impossible to do any library investigations. HOpefully will not refer to 215 as library provision any more. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:16HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:16&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @BleuZ00m: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; McNeill/Heritage Fndn defends the current FISA provisions:&amp;#39;Just because we&amp;#39;ve never used Lone Wolf is no reaso ... &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:16korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:16&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;Samp (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): People don&amp;#39;t want to try to use a law &amp;amp; fail cause it will look bad. That&amp;#39;s why they didn&amp;#39;t use the existing laws. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:16Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:17&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Samp: in terms of judicial oversight, agree with speakers, the more judicial oversight you ahve of executive brnach functions the better. Why they ought to be joining me in applauding congress for adopint g FISA amendments act.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;say whaaaaaat? &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:17HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:17&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;/div&gt;#PatriotAct Samp/WashLegalFndn defends former AG Mukasey&amp;#39;s statements regarding intrusive FISA, poohpoohs its abuses. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:17Amy Ringenbach&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:17&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Question and answer section now &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:17HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:17&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @Brons: Samp (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): People don&amp;#39;t want to try to use a law &amp;amp; fail cause it will look bad. That&amp;#39;s why they didn&amp;#39;t use the ... &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:17korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:17&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;Samp (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): People want to get rid of the whole thing are the ones calling sec 215 the library provision &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:17Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:17&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @BleuZ00m: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; Samp/WashLegalFndn defends former AG Mukasey&amp;#39;s statements regarding intrusive FISA, poohpoohs its abuses. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:17korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:18&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Let&amp;#39;s all make sure to RT the differnet ways people can sign onto our open letter. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:18HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:18&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @Brons: Samp (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): People want to get rid of the whole thing are the ones calling sec 215 the library provision &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:18korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:18&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;Samp (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): latest version of the law has a special provision to make it impossible to do any library investigations. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:18Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:18&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;Samp (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): points out that the FISA Amendment act di add judicial oversight. I hope you will join me in applauding &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:18Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:19&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie: &lt;/div&gt;I&amp;#39;ll rt after the meeting &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:19korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:19&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @Brons: Samp (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): points out that the FISA Amendment act di add judicial oversight. I hope you will join me in applauding &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:19korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:19&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/GetFISARight&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;GetFISARight:&lt;/div&gt;You can sign our Open Letter to Obama by RTing this #actly: Ask @BarackObama to support &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; reform! &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://act.ly/1fp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://act.ly/1fp&lt;/a&gt; Please RT &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:19GetFISARight&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:19&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie: &lt;/div&gt;ok ...... I&amp;#39;ll do it now!! &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:19korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:20&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;you&amp;#39;re rocking with the RTing Korkie, do it as you see fit   &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:20HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:20&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/GetFISARight&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;GetFISARight:&lt;/div&gt;You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; at @BORDC: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/8Pzd4o&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/8Pzd4o&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:20GetFISARight&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:20&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;audience (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): What a snowstorm! &amp;quot;Shoe bomber&amp;quot;? &amp;quot;Printing boarding passes in library&amp;quot;? Not relevant. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:20Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:20&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/GetFISARight&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;GetFISARight:&lt;/div&gt;You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; at @Change: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/7T02BS&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/7T02BS&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:20GetFISARight&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:20&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @Brons: audience (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): What a snowstorm! &amp;quot;Shoe bomber&amp;quot;? &amp;quot;Printing boarding passes in library&amp;quot;? Not relevant. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:20korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:20&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;/div&gt;#PatriotAct Q&amp;amp;A now, fr audience: &amp;quot;I wasn&amp;#39;t expecting a blizzard!&amp;quot; (laughter) challenging McNeill/Heritage assertions. Her reply:dismissive &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:20Amy Ringenbach&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:21&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/GetFISARight&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;GetFISARight:&lt;/div&gt;You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; at @care2: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/7ctiyd&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/7ctiyd&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:21GetFISARight&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:21&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @GetFISARight: You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; at @care2: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/7ctiyd&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/7ctiyd&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:21korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:21&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;McNeil (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): We&amp;#39;re still in danger and that&amp;#39;s my point in bring up all these threats. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:21Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:21&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @GetFISARight: You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; at @Change: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/7T02BS&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/7T02BS&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:21korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:21&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;McNeil (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): Gag orders: We don&amp;#39;t knock on the terrorists door and tell them that &amp;quot;Hey, we&amp;#39;re surveiling you&amp;quot;. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:21Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:21&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @GetFISARight: You can sign our Open Letter to Obama by RTing this #actly: Ask @BarackObama to support &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; reform! http://act ... &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:21korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:22&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Jaison96&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jaison96:&lt;/div&gt;RT @GetFISARight: You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; at @BORDC: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/8Pzd4o&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/8Pzd4o&lt;/a&gt; #p2 &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:22Jaison96&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:22&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Nojeim: we don&amp;#39;t tell people that to speak you ahve to wait a year. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nojeim: legislation that will pass will fix the gag orders &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:22HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:23&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jim Burrows:&lt;/div&gt;Nojeim (#patriotact event): we don&amp;#39;t tell people that to speak you ahve to wait a year.&lt;br&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:23Jim Burrows&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:23&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @Brons: McNeil (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): We&amp;#39;re still in danger and that&amp;#39;s my point in bring up all these threats. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:23korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:23&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Jaison96&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jaison96:&lt;/div&gt;RT @GetFISARight: You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; at @Change: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/7T02BS&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/7T02BS&lt;/a&gt; #p2 &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:23Jaison96&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:24&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Jaison96&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jaison96:&lt;/div&gt;RT @GetFISARight: You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; at @care2: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/7ctiyd&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/7ctiyd&lt;/a&gt; #p2 &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:24Jaison96&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:24&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/BleuZ00m&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;BleuZ00m:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; Q&amp;amp;A now, fr audience: &amp;quot;I wasn&amp;#39;t expecting a blizzard!&amp;quot; (laughter) challenging McNeill/Heritage assertions. Her reply:dismissive &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:24BleuZ00m&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:24&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/GetFISARight&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;GetFISARight:&lt;/div&gt;@Jaison96 thx for RTing: You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; at @BORDC: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/8Pzd4o&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/8Pzd4o&lt;/a&gt; #p2 &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:24GetFISARight&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:24&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @Brons: Nojeim (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): we don&amp;#39;t tell people that to speak you ahve to wait a year. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:24korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:24&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Juilain: issue is wehther the process invovles such incredible deference to executive assertions of natioanl security.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Julian: challenge to gage orders from people who want to talk about what they saw as excessively broad deployemnt of those letters in ways they thought implicated broader liberties.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Juilain: if we want effective oversight, need to make it possible for opeple to meaningfully challenge and get the word out unless there is some kind of compelling showing that requires them to remain silent. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:24HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:25&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jim Burrows:&lt;/div&gt;I have to sign off soon.&lt;br&gt;I don&amp;#39;t think I can keep this up much any longer.&lt;br&gt;Go 4 it!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:25Jim Burrows&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:26&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @Brons: Nojeim (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): If an NSL is used to get data about you, it doesn&amp;#39;t go to you. The people it goes to have no ince ... &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:26korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:26&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie: &lt;/div&gt;oh dear .... I can&amp;#39;t summarize.  I&amp;#39;ll continue to rt tho &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:26korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:26&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jim Burrows:&lt;/div&gt;I will be stopping before the Juilian bits above. Start with them.&lt;br&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:26Jim Burrows&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:26&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jim, thanks so much, really gerat work.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Korkie, i&amp;#39;ll try ot tweet from GFR and you can RT those &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:26HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:27&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/GetFISARight&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;GetFISARight:&lt;/div&gt;Sanchez aka @normative: issue is whether process involves such incredible deference 2 executive assertions of national security. &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:27GetFISARight&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:28&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/GetFISARight&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;GetFISARight:&lt;/div&gt;Sanchez aka @normative: if we want effective oversight, need to make it possible to meaningfully challenge and get the word out. &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:28GetFISARight&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:28&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Question to people on the right about how far they are willing to go for national security in terms of limiting liberty. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:28HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:29&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;how much are you willing to icnrease the goenrment&amp;#39;s power &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:29HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:29&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mcneil: easy answer for me, and it&amp;#39;s called the constitution. That&amp;#39;s where the limits are drawn. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:29HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:29&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @GetFISARight: You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; at @BORDC: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/8Pzd4o&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/8Pzd4o&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:29korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:30&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;/div&gt;How McNeill can invoke the Constitution as the limiter of the patriot act provisions when Julian, Shahid, the ACLU et all have stated otherwise. She really is clueless. IMHO &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:30Amy Ringenbach&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:31&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Samp: the focus on this law is not really domestic activity at all, is really foreign terroirst activity,a nd it ought to stay that way.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nojeim: let me makea  case that the constitution isn&amp;#39;t good enough. Cites business records documetn. Why bank has to turn over financial records, 4th amendment doesn&amp;#39;t protect it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nojeim: do we want to livei n a coutnry where the rule is where any time someone holds a records about you, law enorcement can get it with no rules? &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:31HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:32&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/GetFISARight&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;GetFISARight:&lt;/div&gt;Nojeim of @cendemtech: do we want to live in a country where the rule is anytime someone holds a record about u, gov can get it? &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:32GetFISARight&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:33&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Juilan: constitution is the floor.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Julian: look at history, when there hasn&amp;#39;t been sufficeint overisght of intellignece power, what has happened, ask what you are willing to risk being used int he same way by soemone who wanted to if htey lacked theo versight to prevent them from it. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:33HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:33&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/thomasn528&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;thomasn528:&lt;/div&gt;RT @GetFISARight: Nojeim of @cendemtech: do we want a country where anytime someone holds a record about u, gov can get it? &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:33thomasn528&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:34&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Nojeim: when a very intrusive form of surveillance or search is to be conducted, there is more serachign jduicial oversight of it. Hvae to show that this person is probably up to no good. Very good concept to spread along with ideas about law enforcement tools. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:34HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:34&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/GetFISARight&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;GetFISARight:&lt;/div&gt;@thomasn528 thanks for the &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; RT on Nojeim of @cendemtech! &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:34GetFISARight&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:35&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/GetFISARight&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;GetFISARight:&lt;/div&gt;Nojeim of @cendemtech: when a very intrusive form of surveillance to be conducted, there is more judicial oversight of it. &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:35GetFISARight&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:37&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @GetFISARight: @thomasn528 thanks for the &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; RT on Nojeim of @cendemtech! &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:37korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:37&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/GetFISARight&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;GetFISARight:&lt;/div&gt;Nojeim of @cendemtech: show this person is probably up 2 no good. Good concept 2 spread along w/ ideas on law enforcement tools. &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:37GetFISARight&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:39&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;SAmp: I fully support minimizaton requirements and think that&amp;#39;s fine. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:39HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:39&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/GetFISARight&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;GetFISARight:&lt;/div&gt;Samp in response to @normative: I fully support minimization requirements and think that&amp;#39;s fine. &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:39GetFISARight&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:40&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mcneil: really quickly, want to make the point that there is never a situation where tweeks on the patriot act wouldn&amp;#39;t be appropriate. I don&amp;#39;t support hte proposals I have seen on the books becasue I thinkt ehy tie the hands of investigators.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mcneil: Richards makes point of patriot act on the whole, if we go back and see that this isn&amp;#39;t working out, there should be chagnes in the process.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mcneil: have to maintain balance iwth constitution. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:40HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:40&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @GetFISARight: Samp in response to @normative: I fully support minimization requirements and think that&amp;#39;s fine. &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:40korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:41&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jim Burrows:&lt;/div&gt;I&amp;#39;ll be back to read this. What I&amp;#39;ve seen while walking in and out get ready go looks like you captured it well.&lt;br&gt;Twee out the last few notes and anythign missed and we&amp;#39;re golden.&lt;br&gt;Good show. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:41Jim Burrows&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:41&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Great show! Thanks to Jim, Korkie, and Amy for helping out. Thanks to everyone who watched and RTed further as well! &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:41HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:42&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie: &lt;/div&gt;I&amp;#39;m off to find that bottle of wine .... unless needed? &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:42korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:43&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Please go enjoy yourself Korkie, thanks again! &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:43HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:44&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie: &lt;/div&gt;Going through the rts ......  I think I only missed a couple. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:44korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:45&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/GetFISARight&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;GetFISARight:&lt;/div&gt;Mcneil of @heritage: there is never a situation where tweeks on the &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; wouldn&amp;#39;t be appropriate &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:45GetFISARight&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:45&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/GetFISARight&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;GetFISARight:&lt;/div&gt;Mcneil of @heritage: I dont support the proposals I have seen on the books because I think they tie the hands of investigators. &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:45GetFISARight&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:45&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/GetFISARight&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;GetFISARight:&lt;/div&gt;Mcneil of @heritage: if we go back and see that this isn&amp;#39;t working out, there should be changes in the process. &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:45GetFISARight&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:46&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @GetFISARight: RT @Brons: Gregory Nojeim starts his CATO &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; talk on the matter of National Security Letters &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:46korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:46&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @GetFISARight: Sanchez aka @normative: insist on explanation for why safeguards are unacceptable. &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:46korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:46&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @GetFISARight: Sanchez aka @normative: default should not be government unfettered power. &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:46korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:46&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/GetFISARight&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;GetFISARight:&lt;/div&gt;Mcneil of @heritage: have to maintain balance with the constitution. &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:46GetFISARight&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:46&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @GetFISARight: Sanchez aka @normative: you are all probably carrying a miniature surveillance device &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:46korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:46&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/bayreader&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;bayreader:&lt;/div&gt;RT @digiphile: &amp;quot;There is a whole document about mistrust of the government. It&amp;#39;s called the Constitution&amp;quot;-Nojeim on need for &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; ... &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:46bayreader&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:47&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @GetFISARight: @logicalextremes thanks for signing on to our &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; Open Letter to Obama through RTing our #actly! &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:47korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:47&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/korkie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie:&lt;/div&gt;RT @GetFISARight: Here are our suggested tweets on our Open Letter to Obama to fix the &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/6dDgAH&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/6dDgAH&lt;/a&gt; #privacy &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:47korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:48&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/GetFISARight&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;GetFISARight:&lt;/div&gt;Well that was quite the &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; debate! Thanks to @brons, @korkie @BleuZ00m for helping organize, &amp;amp; to everyone who RTed &amp;amp; tuned in! &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:48GetFISARight&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:52&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;/div&gt;I&amp;#39;ve switched twitter accts, now on GFRoutreach, to tweetshake participants, and re-tweeters.. That was incredible. Though I did want to see at least one tomato thrown at.. you-know-who... &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:52Amy Ringenbach&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:53&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;/div&gt;Korkie, Jim, Harry: grrreat work! &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:53Amy Ringenbach&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:53&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;/div&gt;Question for any of us: will CATO make available this debate as a viewable webcast? &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:53Amy Ringenbach&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:54&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;/div&gt;Will Julian follow up with us, following the reception there? &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:54Amy Ringenbach&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:54&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/2tuff15&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;2tuff15:&lt;/div&gt;RT @Jaison96: RT @GetFISARight: You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; at @care2: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/7ctiyd&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/7ctiyd&lt;/a&gt; #p2 &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:542tuff15&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:55&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Thanks for doing that Amy, the more RTing the better!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you can direct anyone who RTed us to our open letter it would be especially helpful. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:55HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;2:57&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Julian generously linked to us---twice---from his website and from Cato&amp;#39;s.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We do not have plans to followup, although I will be keeping the Cover it Live open (though without a moderator there might be delay before comments are approved). &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20092:57HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:06&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;/div&gt;That&amp;#39;s what I&amp;#39;m doing: &amp;#39;Direct anyone who RTed us to our open letter&amp;#39; and thanking them, H. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20093:06Amy Ringenbach&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:11&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;jon: &lt;/div&gt;hi everybody sorry i mostly missed it ... great job! &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20093:11jon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;3:16&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/womenontheverge&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;womenontheverge:&lt;/div&gt;RT @Hegemommy: RT @GetFISARight: Here are our suggested tweets on our Open Letter to Obama 2 fix &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/6dDgAH&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/6dDgAH&lt;/a&gt; #p2 #tlot &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20093:16womenontheverge&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;6:29&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/jacknagel&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;jacknagel:&lt;/div&gt;@normative Is there a video of today&amp;#39;s &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; debate up anywhere? &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20096:29jacknagel&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;7:21&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;RT @GetFISARight: Here are our suggested tweets on our Open Letter to Obama to fix the &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/6dDgAH&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/6dDgAH&lt;/a&gt; #privacy &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20097:21Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;7:26&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;@normative  I really want to see that &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event up on an archive. It was REALLY good. You and Greg said great things. Thx! &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20097:26Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;7:29&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Brons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Brons:&lt;/div&gt;RT self Nojeim (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; event): There is a whole document about mistrust of the gov&amp;#39;t. It&amp;#39;s called the Constitution. That&amp;#39;s the message. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20097:29Brons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;7:29&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jim Burrows:&lt;/div&gt;Thanks everybody. Sorry I had to run off to a physical meeting before it was done. Great events, both teh CATO and the tweetchat. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Thursday December  3, 20097:29Jim Burrows&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;9:39&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/Oculuris&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Oculuris:&lt;/div&gt;Many great tweets all day today re unconstitutional govt spying on u @GetFISARight @normative @cendemtech &amp;amp; others &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; #privacy #p2 &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;hr size=&quot;1&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;</description></item><item><title>Dec 3 Cato Mark notes</title><link>http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Dec+3+Cato+Mark+notes</link><author>Hwaisbren</author><guid isPermaLink="false">http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Dec+3+Cato+Mark+notes</guid><pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 11:28:52 CST</pubDate><description>&lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     Mark: Fired up; ready to go. &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Mark: CATO video is not loading.   Anyone? &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Mark: CATO video just loaded; stage is empty. &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Mark: Here we go; Tim Lynch giving intro &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Lynch citing that Obama wants all of Patriot renewed. &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Lynch: clarifying info: Homeland Security, Gitmo, TSA, rendition, NOT Patriot Act controversies&lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Lynch: Today concerns: Sect 215 (getting records in secret); NSLs (no warrant); gag provisions; sneak &amp;amp; peak (covert searches); roving wiretaps; FISA electronic surveillance &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;Julian Sanchez: See the big picture of American surveillance law. There&amp;#39;s been a shift from surveilance of a suspect to surveillance of populations &amp;amp; data mining &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Sanchez: Wrong to think Patriot/FISA needed to track terrorists - other laws exist. Patriot/FISA is used to spy on unsuspected Americans. &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Dorlester:  Sanchez is making a polite comment that b/c of Patriot, we live in a 1984 world. &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Sanchez: govt has processed 8 million requests for geo-location of targets here           msg_content = $(&amp;#39;msg_content_69&amp;#39;);     for (var i=0; i  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Sanchez: now can track patterns of social networking e.g., membership lists. Terrorist watch list has 400,000 names; and other data &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Sanchez:  Courts have consistently found that (4th Amendment) effectively does not exist under FISA &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Sanchez: FISA court can now approve not targets of surveillance but procedures without respect to targets. &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Sanchez:  The default should not be unfettered government power! &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Sanchez:  need to return to laws aimed at actual targets or at least 2nd order targets. &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Sanchez: first amendment/founders aimed at facilitating not only individual free speech, but group discussion. &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Next: Greg Nogelm, CDT. Every law has purpose and means to accomplish that purpose.  The problem with Patriot is the means.&lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Nogelm: Situation is akin to &amp;#39;50s and more recent secret files/spying on individuals  Wants today to focus on NSLs. &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Nogelm: Issued in secret; it is a crime to reveal one; 10s of 1000s issued each year. Includes such things as files by incurance &lt;br&gt;companies, jewelers, USPS ... with NO judicial authorization&lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Dorlester: central issue: NSLs create a government of men, not laws. Any investigator can target you no matter how he/she thinks you&amp;#39;re connected to terrorism. &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Nogelm: DOJ should at least be required to state which investigation an NSL is linked to; DOJ IG found that NSLs have been issues where no investigation of any kind was underway!&lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Nogelm:  NSLs NOT up for renewal this year; this should be at the top of Congress&amp;#39; action list nonetheless.&lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Nogelm:  Senate bill (S. 1692(rs)) does not deal with NSLs; House bills (H. 3845/6(ih)) do.&lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Nogelm: Re 215 action, is in close 2nd place; 215 used to be just e.g., travel records, now unlimited. &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Nogelm: Next, Lone Wolf must be repealed, not reformed. If you have reason to believe a person is connected in any way to illegal &lt;br&gt;activity, existing law covers investigation. &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Nogelm: Patriot&amp;#39;s aims we all support; it&amp;#39;s the means, human power and frailty (without judicial oversight-md) that heeds tobe changed &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Next: Jenna Baker McNeill - Heritage:  First, keeping us free, safe ... agreed.  But questions:  Has Patriot been successful? &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Baker McNeill: Terrorists often operate in seams between criminal activity and use our freedoms against us. Patriot act often cited as &lt;br&gt;cure, but in cases (NYC, Portland OR) - there have been at least 27 plots foiled  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Baker McNeill: Threats abroad are actually worse. Section 215 and lone wolf provisions have caught terrorists we would not otherwise found. &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Baker McNeill:  Provisions of Patriot/FISA not at fault &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;COMMENT: She has a law degree, but she doesn&amp;#39;t read the law the way I do. She&amp;#39;s claiming that there are &amp;quot;all kinds of safeguards in place.&amp;quot; &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Baker McNeill: Existing safeguards are adequate; it is questionalbe that adding safeguards improve the safeguarding. Further more safeguards &amp;quot;chill the hand of investigators&amp;quot; and similar security costs. &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Baker McNeill:  Abuses can be corrected w/in existing safeguards. &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;COMMENT:  virtually no applause &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Next - Richard Samp - Washington Legal Foundation - Existing oversight, eg IG reports, are working. &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Baker McNeill:  Just because there is potential for abuse doesn&amp;#39;t mean we need to slow down investigations &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;COMMENT:  Right, &amp;quot;Trust Us&amp;quot; - again, government of men is just fine, he&amp;#39;s saying&lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     CRX! Last coments after Samp introduced are Samp, not McNeill &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Samp:  Keep lone wolf; would have caught Zacharias Massowi. &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Samp: Obama was a critic when he was a Senator, but now the Obama Admin strongly supports renewal (aka, Obama has learned how great Patriot is) &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Samp:  OK to place sunset on NSLs; future discussion fine. &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Samp:  Feingold bill would hamstring investigations.  Indeed Sup Ct case (Holder v ?) shows that. &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Samp: Feingold bill, would let support for Al Qaeda or Hammas be OK provided it&amp;#39;s intended for humanitarian effort. Problem: money is fungible. &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Samp: Sup Ct has held that sneak/peak is within the 4th amendment:  reasonablee &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;REBUTTAL: Sanchez: Although Baker-McNeill talked about &amp;quot;connecting the dots,&amp;quot; re 9/11 the issue was not the judicial wall between criminal and terrorist investigation. In fact, a FISA order before 9/11 could have been issued to get the 9/11 info out of Mossaui&amp;#39;s computer.&lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Sanchez: Patriot did not help catch, eg shoe-bomber and others. We get tips from foreign intelligence. And roving wiretaps under FISA are not limited to the terrorist suspects. &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Sanchez: Also, oversight is NOT so good; DoJ IG said that info they had was fuzzy. Further, oversight of 200,000 peeks is impossible &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Nogelm:  The issue isn&amp;#39;t another layer of bureacucracy as oversight, it&amp;#39;s JUDICIAL involvement/oversight.&lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Nojelm:  If sneak-and-peak is an important anti-terrorism weapon, LIMIT it to that!&lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Nojelm: Debate is about controls on exercising power/keeping it under the Constitution. Lone wolf has never been used, so we needn&amp;#39;t worry about it. &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Nojelm:  Claims of keeping info secret/national security (under Bush) not needed under current Doj &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Baker-McNeill:  Patriot act incourages honesty (by investigators) and provides framework. &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Baker-McNeill: Again, abuses can be and have been exposed and corrected. &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Samp: Problem w/Moussaui was that investigators believed they could not get a FISA warrant. &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;COMMENT:  Therefore, trash the 4th Amendment &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Samp: That library investigantions under 215 weren&amp;#39;t being done was secret and that was good; now that it&amp;#39;s known that no library 215s are being done, terrorists can use libraries. &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Audience Q:  How do gag orders conform with the Constitution? &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;McNeill - We&amp;#39;re still under threat and we need the Patriot Act. We have gag orders b/c we can&amp;#39;t let terrorists know they&amp;#39;re targets. And where is theis not w/in the Constitution? &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Nogelm - it&amp;#39;s not 215 that&amp;#39;s library provision, it&amp;#39;s NSL; and the NSL party couldn&amp;#39;t even inform Congress [even in closed session] about the fact and import of the NSL Congress then allowed them to testify - a YEAR later!&lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Nogelm:  Further, the NSL doesn&amp;#39;t go to you, it goes to your jeweler, your merchants - the damage is done and no one can talk. &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Sanchez - if there was judicial process and challenge permitted, it might be OK.  We need EFFECTIVE oversight. &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;2nd Questioner - To SANT- you say money is fungible; but what about US giving money to foreigh gov&amp;#39;t ; by your reasoning the State Department would be indictable! &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Sant: There&amp;#39;s a list; and those charged can challenge in court and have done so. &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Nojelm:  Current Sp Ct case is about giving legal advice. &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Questioner 3 - Balance of civil liberties and terrorism: How many more civil liberties are you willing to surrender? (Q to McNeill/Samp) &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;McNeill- Answer is the Constitution.  What is in the gray area.  Sant: I&amp;#39;m not in favor of locking up citizens &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Nogelm: Constitutional principal: 3rd party info is not protected by Constitution. Question: is that the rule we want - that anything not protected by Constitution is fair game for peek by investigators?&lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Sanchez - We have to look at what is really necessary - what are the characteristics in real investigations? Look at history; what has happened when oversight was insufficient?&lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;4th Questioner (Georgian TV) How necessary is Patriot for small Eastern European Countries? &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Nogelm - You face the same issues.  In the US, the more invasive the search, the stricter the required judicial oversight&lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;COMMENT - THAT&amp;quot;S THE KEY; Please capture in our materials!!!&lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;4th Questioner. (I missed Q) Nojelm - Again, the more sensitive the info sought, the more the judicial and other oversight &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Sanchez - Originally, &amp;#39;86, NSLs were limited to basic info e.g.,, the existence and balance in your bank account, not your whole life&amp;#39;s record tin our credit cards&lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;Sanchez - Add robust minimization (dump data mining extraneous.  SAMP - I agree. &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     McNeill - There should be tweeks in Patriot if abuses are shown. &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;br&gt;END video           m&lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_name&quot;&gt;              &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;chat_transcript_msg&quot;&gt;     &lt;/div&gt;&lt;hr size=&quot;1&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;</description></item><item><title>Dec 1 organizing call key takeways notes</title><link>http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Dec+1+organizing+call+key+takeways+notes</link><author>Hwaisbren</author><guid isPermaLink="false">http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Dec+1+organizing+call+key+takeways+notes</guid><pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 15:20:35 CST</pubDate><description>&lt;b&gt;Attendees&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;Mark, Jim, Amy, Korkie Jim Babka and Jon from the airport on the call &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Emphasis on suggested tweets&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cato Tweetchat&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cover like other markups (link to them)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark to help cover, link to his HuffPo piece&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;http://www.cato.org/event.php?eventid=6792&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jim Babka cited importnace of continuing to engage conservatives, can through  #tlot, #c4l -- Top Libertarians on Twitter and Campaign For Liberty (Ron Paul&amp;#39;s group) &lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tuesday tweetchat&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;in combination with conference call&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Generally build more outreach/discussion&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: worth setting up brainstorming just on email lists, encouraging poeple to discuss via email and moderating/letting discussions through could start some conversations too. Conversations on blog therad, brainstorming outreach, blogging as we do it to elt people know it&amp;#39;s happening.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;More targeted, focuso n blogosphere to msm. obtain personal stories.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Not necessarilya bout 1 anecdote, bigger, about getting poeple to undresatnd this affecst their day to day life and what they can do about it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: good topic to engage poeple on email lists and FB group, asking if there are ways this is affecting your day to day life or anyone you know&amp;#39;s day to day life&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: have favorited a few things of people saying these things. Idk if htey are patriot act related or not, have to dig in, but wondering if htere is more going on, this low level of frustration.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: rather than look for big killer anecdotes, worth highlighting low level annoynace. &lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br&gt;Other action items for Harry:&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;TechPresident outreach&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: low key outreach for people to write about tweetchat? Techpresident would be great ot hit on that, either Nancy or Micah. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: Harry, contact TechPresident folk, CC me, can also jump in and ask for other suggestions. Trying ot break logjam, get momentum, ask for help in terms of suggestions.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Open Left outreach&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: worht targeting Ari Melber, real busy on climate change. Maybe ask him for suggestions on who to hit. &lt;br&gt;&lt;hr size=&quot;1&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;</description></item><item><title>Dec 1 call chat log</title><link>http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Dec+1+call+chat+log</link><author>Hwaisbren</author><guid isPermaLink="false">http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Dec+1+call+chat+log</guid><pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 15:05:50 CST</pubDate><description>December 1 organizing call &lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/December+1+Organizing+Call&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;meeting page&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;11:39&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Hi everyone, hope all of your Thanksgivings went wonderfully! &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200911:39HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;11:42&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jim Burrows:&lt;/div&gt;Hi, Harry&lt;br&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200911:42Jim Burrows&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;11:42&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;One thing we should try to do during the call is for anyone on Twitter to send out some (or all of) our &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://getfisaright.wordpress.com/2009/11/30/open-letter-suggested-tweets/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;suggested tweets&lt;/a&gt; to further promote the open letter:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt; Ask @BarackObama to support #patriotact reform! &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://act.ly/1fp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://act.ly/1fp&lt;/a&gt; Please RT You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the #patriotact at @BORDC: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/8Pzd4o&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/8Pzd4o&lt;/a&gt; You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the #patriotact at @Change: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/7T02BS&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/7T02BS&lt;/a&gt; You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the #patriotact at @care2: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/7ctiyd&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/7ctiyd&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200911:42HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;11:50&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Hello to you too Jim!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Another thing of note is that currently, our combined &lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Statistics&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;statistics of signatures&lt;/a&gt; for our open letter are 617.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It was steadily rising following the tweetchat but fell off the map during the Thanksgiving break. We need to jumpstart it once again to really make it go viral, and should be able to with the right strategy. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200911:50HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:02&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mark, Jim, Amy, Korkie on the call &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:02HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:04&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Intro, goal, agenda check. (5 min)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Update on legislative status (5 min)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Outreach and media planning (10-20 min)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tweetchat discussion (10-15 min)&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Potential Tweetchat Thursday during &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://www.cato.org/event.php?eventid=6792&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Cato Patriot Act&lt;/a&gt; event&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Action items and next steps (5 min)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:04HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:06&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Legislative check---Shahid mentioned in tweetchat that can could be kicked down the road. State of Union coming up. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:06HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:07&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Amy: tweeting legislators with tweetags &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:07HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:08&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Here is our statistics page again: &lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Statistics&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Statistics&lt;/a&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:08HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:14&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mark: I&amp;#39;d help out but I&amp;#39;m not a &amp;quot;twit&amp;quot;. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Korkie: I&amp;#39;m on twitter, can help if you show me&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Harry: Twitter is easy to teach. Can help in many other ways, email, phone etc. during the &amp;quot;tweetchat&amp;quot;. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:14HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:16&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mark: send me the links and I&amp;#39;ll be there &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:16HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg readercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:17&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext viewer_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinecommentname&quot;&gt;[Comment From korkie korkie:]&lt;/div&gt;once you are on twitter mark, we can all follow you ... &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:17korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:18&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;tweetchat this thursday? Different than contacting media/legislator tweetchat &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:18HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:18&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jim: cover Cato event like other hearings &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:18HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg readercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:19&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext viewer_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinecommentname&quot;&gt;[Comment From Jim Babka Jim Babka:]&lt;/div&gt;Sorry, I&amp;#39;m late. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:19Jim Babka&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:20&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jim B: interseted in tweetchats, seeing how they go &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:20HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:21&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mark: I plan to observe the Cato forum, not sure if by Thrusday there is much I can do&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Harry: if you can type in chat room, we can tweet&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark: sure &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:21HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:22&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jim Babka: &lt;/div&gt;Is the signing period for the open letter still open? &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:22Jim Babka&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:23&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jim Burrows:&lt;/div&gt;Yes Jim &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:23Jim Burrows&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:23&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie: &lt;/div&gt;yes Jim B &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:23korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:23&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jim Babka: &lt;/div&gt;How does one sign? &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:23Jim Babka&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:23&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Yes it is Jim, here are the various ways you can sign in the links:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt; Ask @BarackObama to support #patriotact reform! &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://act.ly/1fp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://act.ly/1fp&lt;/a&gt; Please RT You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the #patriotact at @BORDC: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/8Pzd4o&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/8Pzd4o&lt;/a&gt; You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the #patriotact at @Change: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/7T02BS&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/7T02BS&lt;/a&gt; You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the #patriotact at @care2: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/7ctiyd&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/7ctiyd&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:23HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:24&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jim Burrows:&lt;/div&gt;Via any of the four ways listed above.&lt;br&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:24Jim Burrows&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:24&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie: &lt;/div&gt;What time??? &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:24korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:24&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Cato event 4pm EST: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://www.cato.org/event.php?eventid=6792&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.cato.org/event.php?eventid=6792&lt;/a&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:24HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:24&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jim Burrows:&lt;/div&gt;CATO is 4:00 on Thursday, eastern&lt;br&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:24Jim Burrows&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:26&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Tweetchat for media/legislator time?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Amy: i&amp;#39;m available Friday, be there Thursday&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jim: hard time commiting to different time.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:26HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:26&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie: &lt;/div&gt;I&amp;#39;m pretty flexible on time... &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:26korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:26&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/JimBabka&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;JimBabka:&lt;/div&gt;You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; at @BORDC: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/8Pzd4o&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/8Pzd4o&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:26JimBabka&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:27&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Thanks Jim for tweeting, and for anyone else, please tweet our now (or after the call).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tweets to Rt again:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt; Ask @BarackObama to support #patriotact reform! &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://act.ly/1fp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://act.ly/1fp&lt;/a&gt; Please RT You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the #patriotact at @BORDC: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/8Pzd4o&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/8Pzd4o&lt;/a&gt; You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the #patriotact at @Change: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/7T02BS&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/7T02BS&lt;/a&gt; You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the #patriotact at @care2: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/7ctiyd&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/7ctiyd&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:27HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:27&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Amy and I will be discussing media work Friday&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Amy: radio shows int he wroks &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:27HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:30&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Next tuesday call to coordinate media/legislator outreach?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark: fine with me, anxious to participate&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jim Burrows: don&amp;#39;t slow down efforts in the meantime&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Harry: lot of suggestd tweets, but completely agree, why we&amp;#39;re doing Thurdsay. Open to other non-twitter ideas as well. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:30HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:30&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jim Babka: &lt;/div&gt;oh, i didn&amp;#39;t know my Tweet would show up here. Cool. Is it the hashtag that brought my Tweet here? &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:30Jim Babka&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:30&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jim Burrows: list of potential hashtags other than #patriotact &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:30HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:31&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jim Babka: &lt;/div&gt;hashtags other than Patriot #tlot, #c4l -- Top Libertarians on Twitter and Campaign For Liberty (Ron Paul&amp;#39;s group) &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:31Jim Babka&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:31&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;it is Jim, that&amp;#39;s how we organize the tweetchat&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: worth organizing the privacy hashtag. Lot of privacy related people hang out. Hitting up more often.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: worth setting up brainstorming just on email lists, encouraging poeple to discuss via email and moderating/letting discussions through could start some conversations too. Conversations on blog therad, brainstorming outreach, blogging as we do it to elt people know it&amp;#39;s happening. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:31HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:32&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mark: I agree, amazed in the negative. Sent out our stuff to GFR lists on OFA, and there is a constitutioanl group and others that I regularly communicate with, gotten 2 people fed back from those sources now. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:32HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:33&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Completely agree about engaging libertarian/conservative hashtags much more Jim!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We have typically been sending out tweets from @GetFISARight to #patriotact and relying on others to RT to other tags. We can coordinate it more, and have more concrete outreach to these groups as well. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:33HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:34&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: shortlist of targeting just one or two bloggers/reporters and going to wrok on them?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Harry: moving on to media discussion about who we can target? &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:34HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg readercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:35&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext viewer_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinecommentname&quot;&gt;[Comment From Amy Ringenbach Amy Ringenbach:]&lt;/div&gt;Mark, here&amp;#39;s the link to the media list Jon and Harry culled from last year&amp;#39;s Letter roll-out: &lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Media+Contact+List&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Media+Contact+List&lt;/a&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:35Amy Ringenbach&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:35&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jim: only a handful of people who have been concenred about civil liberties of late. Even amongst progressive bloggers and commentators. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jim: could get Greenwald to atlk about it, but talks about nothing but civil liberties. Would love to get Keith/Rachel, Amy Goodman &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:35HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:38&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: Chris Bowers on open left. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Harry: not much otureach yet, but preparing. If we engage Specter/Sestak issue is when we get a lot of traction tehre too.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Amy: have made initial entreaties to Specter/Sestak, haven&amp;#39;t persued. Waiting to 1,000. Can if that&amp;#39;s what we wish. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:38HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:39&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: I can see both ways, trying to do more organic growth on numbers before outreach. Do we do someting else to get a surge?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;harry: tweetchats designed to do that&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: low key outreach for people to write about tweetchat? Techpresident would be great ot hit on that, either Nancy or Micah. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:39HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:39&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: worht targeting Ari Melber, real busy on climate change. Maybe ask him for suggestions on who to hit. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:39HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:40&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: Harry, contact TechPresident folk, CC me, can also jump in and ask for other suggestions. Trying ot break logjam, get momentum, ask for help in terms of suggestions.&lt;br&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:40HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:40&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mark: if we had a headline of &amp;quot;somebody&amp;#39;s life was ruined today because of a NSL&amp;quot; that is the kind of thing I believe would get a lot of media attention. Can put it into a call for action. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:40HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:42&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Amy: I&amp;#39;ve been serious about that, not sure who in our circle is a repisotory for htat. If you get NSL letter, you can&amp;#39;t talk about htat.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Harry: maybe time to try to engage Iraq Veterans Against the War. Know they are breakign the law, engaging in civil disobedience already. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:42HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:43&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mark: some headline, doesn&amp;#39;t ned to be a NSL. Something tnagible will attract attention. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:43HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:44&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mark: we have to do that, no matter what. It&amp;#39;s necessary, engine of hte thing. It just ocurred to me, maybe during his Cato conference there woudl be some anecdotal discussion, do you think &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:44HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:44&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jim Burrows: should be watching Cato thing for anything that&amp;#39;s a hook for this &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:44HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:45&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Maybe i-spy video Jon talked about?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;No matter what, need to make this more tangible to people &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:45HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:45&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mark: lots of signs in US, every couple of miles, report suspicious behavior. All over. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:45HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:47&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Amy: redux of Tom Ridge yellow orange color coded charts &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:47HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:48&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: interesting, in SC, talking to Mom&amp;#39;s freinds, not political. hate flying, demeaning. Someone else going to different grocery store w/out frequent buyer cards.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: people feel helpless, don&amp;#39;t know what they can do. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:48HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:48&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mark: one anecdote we can get attention of media, get mroe people on teh social netwroks &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:48HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:50&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Not necessarilya bout 1 anecdote, bigger, about getting poeple to undresatnd this affecst their day to day life and what they can do about it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: good topic to engage poeple on email lists and FB group, asking if there are ways this is affecting your day to day life or anyone you know&amp;#39;s day to day life&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: seen a few tweets about how bank account frozen by patriotact activity &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:50HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:51&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: have favorited a few things of people saying these things. Idk if htey are patriot act related or not, have to dig in, but wondering if htere is more going on, this low level of frustration.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: rather than look for big killer anecdotes, worth highlighting low level annoynace. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:51HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:51&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;/div&gt;What I can do, as I continue to roll this out to progressive groups via email, is to invite folks to share how they have been affected.. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:51Amy Ringenbach&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:51&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Mark: after call I&amp;#39;ll post on various OFA lists askign that exact question. Outstanding idea.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: put up a blog post on, fowrad to privacy coalition, ask their members for different way of thinking. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:51HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:52&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jim Burrows:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://www.boston.com/news/education/higher/articles/2009/12/01/capuano_says_coakley_defended_patriot_act/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.boston.com/news/education/higher/articles/2009/12/01/capuano_says_coakley_defended_patriot_act/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:52Jim Burrows&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:53&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: massachusetts could be a great way to engage people on the email lists&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jim Burrows: i&amp;#39;m from MA &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:53HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:54&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: I can get something up on FB.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;harry: sent last message right after tweetchat of open letter&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: event for Cato, After that good time for another email&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Harry: can work together, one engaging conversation other is starting&lt;br&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:54HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:54&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: great suggestion Jim, looking around at Sestak/specter, MA, where else we can find these local things and build local interest. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:54HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:56&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jim: mentioned Greenwald, how to engage. On his list of blogs he reads, if we get stuff into them that might be one thing. 2nd hting is above that is &amp;quot;open salon&amp;quot;, worth someone trying to write a salon article on civil liberites/patriot act, signing this open letter to Obama, so someone is saying something in his neighborhood.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Harry: key is convincing him to link/promote us rather than being aware &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:56HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:57&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;korkie: &lt;/div&gt;Sorry ..... I have to run.  I&amp;#39;ll catch up on the write-up.  Let me know if there is somethings specific you want me to do. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:57korkie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:58&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Take care Korkie!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: we can try picking osmeone and just really targeting them combined iwth twitter/email stuff. Can&amp;#39;t hurt, and as we pitch to techpresident.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;harry: question of when and how we pressure them to engage. After TP? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: chicken/egg question&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Harry: this tuesady is backstop, Who and how to engage with the poeple power we&amp;#39;ll be bringing &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:58HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:58&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: alert your personal RT/emails that we&amp;#39;ll be asking for help Tuesday. Details TBD, way of magnifying our strength &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:58HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;12:59&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Jim Babka: &lt;/div&gt;I&amp;#39;ll be dropping. Thanks for the meeting. Good job. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 200912:59Jim Babka&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:00&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt; Ask @BarackObama to support #patriotact reform! &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://act.ly/1fp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://act.ly/1fp&lt;/a&gt; Please RT You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the #patriotact at @BORDC: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/8Pzd4o&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/8Pzd4o&lt;/a&gt; You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the #patriotact at @Change: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/7T02BS&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/7T02BS&lt;/a&gt; You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the #patriotact at @care2: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/7ctiyd&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/7ctiyd&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;  &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 20091:00HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:00&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;/div&gt;(just tweeted) @GFRoutreach @GetFISARight BOSTON:Capuano says Coakley defended #PatriotAct ! #p2 @BORDC: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/8Pzd4o&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/8Pzd4o&amp;quot;&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitthis.com/9pbn95&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://twitthis.com/9pbn95&lt;/a&gt;) &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 20091:00Amy Ringenbach&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg tweetcomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:00&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext tweet_text&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/BleuZ00m&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;BleuZ00m:&lt;/div&gt;@GFRoutreach @GetFISARight BOSTON:Capuano says Coakley defended &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://search.twitter.com/search?q=%22%23patriotact%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;#patriotact&lt;/a&gt; ! #p2 @BORDC: &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/8Pzd4o&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/8Pzd4o&amp;quot;&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitthis.com/9pbn95&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://twitthis.com/9pbn95&lt;/a&gt;) &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 20091:00BleuZ00m&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:02&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Jon: couple more action items&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1. blog thread/email/FB on how you personally been affected. Mark on OFA, I&amp;#39;ll do FB. Harry will do blog.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Amy: i&amp;#39;ll put heat up on Sestak/Specter, one radio guy intersted in getting Arlen in on this. Might jsut happen.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: Amy, anything we can do to help you, this seems like our most promisnig short term area now.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Amy: at this point no. Let me make more entreaties. I know two of his IT guys and several of his campaign people. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 20091:02HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;chatmsg writercomment&quot;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtime&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemtime&quot;&gt;1:04&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;chatmsgtext altcaster_text&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;inlinedisplayname&quot;&gt;HarryWaisbren:&lt;/div&gt;Great call everyone! Will leave this chat room open a while longer for any brainstorming that poeple wish to do inside. &lt;div class=&quot;bottomnametime&quot;&gt;Tuesday December  1, 20091:04HarryWaisbren&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;                     &lt;div class=&quot;chatbotttom&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;hr size=&quot;1&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;</description></item><item><title>December 1 Organizing Call</title><link>http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/December+1+Organizing+Call</link><author>Hwaisbren</author><guid isPermaLink="false">http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/December+1+Organizing+Call</guid><pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 13:37:53 CST</pubDate><description>&lt;div align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;bottom&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; class=&quot;WPC-edit-style-none WPC-edit-border-none WPC-edit-styleData-color1=%23ebebeb&amp;color2=%23c7c7c7&quot; width=&quot;100%&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;center&quot; class=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;23%&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;center&quot; bgcolor=&quot;#a8f7c9&quot; class=&quot;WPC-edit-custom-bgColor&quot; width=&quot;55%&quot;&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;4&quot;&gt;Promoting our Open Letter: A Patriot Act and FISA reform organizing call&lt;br&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tuesday: 12 pm PST/3pm EST&lt;br&gt;Dialin:                                                                               1-219-509-8111 Access code:                                      705723&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You are cordially invited to a phone call and online chat to discuss promoting our &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://getfisaright.wordpress.com/2009/11/22/final-draft-of-our-open-letter-to-obama/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;open letter to the president.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Please join in pre-meeting discussions &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://getfisaright.wordpress.com/2009/10/25/continuing-the-conversation/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;on the Get FISA RIght blog&lt;/a&gt; or in the chat room below!&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;21%&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;bottom&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; class=&quot;WPC-edit-style-grid1 WPC-edit-border-all WPC-edit-styleData-color1=%23ebebeb&amp;color2=%23c7c7c7&quot; width=&quot;100%&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;50%&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Goals&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Go over next steps for outreach&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Organize media engagement&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Discuss future tweetchats&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;b&gt;Agenda&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Intro, goal, agenda check. (5 min)&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Update on legislative status (5 min)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Outreach and media planning (10-20 min)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tweetchat discussion (10-15 min)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Potential Tweetchat Thursday during &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://www.cato.org/event.php?eventid=6792&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Cato Patriot Act&lt;/a&gt; event&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Action items and next steps (5 min)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#ffa500&quot;&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#333333&quot;&gt;Resources&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Open letter&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://getfisaright.wordpress.com/2009/11/22/final-draft-of-our-open-letter-to-obama/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; final version&lt;br&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Media+Contact+List&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;Media contact list&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Latest &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://bit.ly/6dDgAH&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Suggested Tweets&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;50%&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;hr size=&quot;1&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;</description></item><item><title>November 24 tweetchat transcript</title><link>http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/November+24+tweetchat+transcript</link><author>Hwaisbren</author><guid isPermaLink="false">http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/November+24+tweetchat+transcript</guid><pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:14:53 CST</pubDate><description>This transcript is from Get FISA Right&amp;#39;s Patriot Act reform Tweetchat held in our &lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Patriot+Act+Action+Hub&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;Patriot Act Action Hub&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;HarryWaisbren&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; Hello everyone, and welcome to Get FISA Right&amp;rsquo;s #patriotact reform tweetchat!&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; We are here today in order to spur grassroots activism to reform the Patriot Act in this critical period prior to the December 31 reauthorization deadline. Today&amp;rsquo;s tweetchat will entail a mix of online organizers and civil liberties experts going over the issues at hand by &amp;ldquo;delving into the details&amp;rdquo; of the bills as well as discussing what we can do about them.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; As part of this effort, Get FISA Right is very proud to release our Open Letter to President Obama which we are using as a tool to accept both Obama&amp;rsquo;s and Attorney General Holder&amp;rsquo;s invitation for a conversation about civil liberties (you can sign on by clicking through).&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; This tweetchat will serve as a medium to spread the letter in particular and our passions for civil liberties in general. You can participate by writing in the chat room and/or by tweeting to #patriotact.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; It should be quite a time---especially with experts such as Shahid Buttar of BORDC, Julian Sanchez of Cato, and our very own Jon Pincus of Get FISA Right---but the more participation we get from all of you (in the chat and via twitter) the better this event will be!&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; Ask @BarackObama to please support #patriotact reform! http://act.ly/1fp Please RT&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Oryctolagus&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;RT: @GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:Ask @BarackObama to please support #patriotact reform! http://act.ly/1fp Please RT&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;HarryWaisbren&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;RT @GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:Ask @BarackObama to please support #patriotact reform! http://act.ly/1fp Please RT&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;HarryWaisbren&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Our #patriotact reform tweetchat begins in about 15 minutes&lt;/b&gt;:http://bit.ly/Qq5VE&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Our #patriotact reform tweetchat begins in about 15 minutes&lt;/b&gt;:http://bit.ly/Qq5VE&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;BORDC&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; @GetFISARight Open Letter to President Obama http://bit.ly/gfrbordc #patriotact #privacy&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Brons&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; Ask @BarackObama to please support #patriotact reform! http://act.ly/1fp Please RT&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Julian&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt; Just checking in&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Jim Burrows&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; Hi, Julian.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt; good morning all ...&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;normative&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Reminder&lt;/b&gt;:I&amp;#39;m doing an online chat on #patriotact at 11 EST (i.e. in ten minutes) http://bit.ly/Qq5VE&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt; Great to see you all&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; good morning Shahid! thanks for jioning us &lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jmwilde3&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; Ask @BarackObama to please support #patriotact reform! http://act.ly/1fp Please RT&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;a word from our sponsor&lt;/b&gt;:please sign the open letter at http://bit.ly/gfrbordc/ and http://bit.ly/gfrchange/ if you haven&amp;#39;t already!&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;HarryWaisbren&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; Shahid---after an intro, I am going to kick it off to you to discuss the legal issues at hand.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Brons&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;RT @GetFISARight: Our #patriotact reform tweetchat begins in about 5 minutes&lt;/b&gt;:http://bit.ly/Qq5VE&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;HarryWaisbren&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; Hey everyone, we&amp;#39;re giving people another few minutes to show up. Get your questions ready, because we have top notch experts at hand to answer any of your patriot act questions at hand!&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;HarryWaisbren&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; Hello again everyone, and welcome to Get FISA Right&amp;rsquo;s #patriotact reform tweetchat!&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; welcome all! how many people are here?&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Brons&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;If you have #patriotact questions for Julian Sanchez of the Cato Institute or Shahid Buttar of BORDC ask at&lt;/b&gt;:http://bit.ly/Qq5VE&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Julian Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Morning all!&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Jim Burrows&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; Hi. Jim Burrows of GFR here.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;korkie&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; hi all&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Thanks so much for joining us this morning.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;HarryWaisbren&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; As part of this effort, Get FISA Right is very proud to release our Open Letter to President Obama which we are using as a tool to accept both Obama&amp;rsquo;s and Attorney General Holder&amp;rsquo;s invitation for a conversation about civil liberties (you can sign on by clicking through).&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; This tweetchat will serve as a medium to spread the letter in particular and our passions for civil liberties in general. You can participate by writing in the chat room and/or by tweeting to #patriotact.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Amagi&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt; Hello&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; i&amp;#39;ll talk a little more at the end about the open letter&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;HarryWaisbren&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; It should be quite a time---especially with experts such as Shahid Buttar of BORDC, Julian Sanchez of Cato, and our very own Jon Pincus of Get FISA Right---but the more participation we get from all of you (in the chat and via twitter) the better this event will be!&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; one of the great things about chat is that multiple people can talk at once, so if you have questions please jump in&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;HarryWaisbren&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; And with that, I will kick it off to Shahid to discuss the legal issues in regards to Patriot Act reform.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; To anyone with a twitter account, please help us summarize comments into tweets to spread the word!&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Jenny&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt; Good morning all. I signed the petition. Now what!&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; @GetFISARight&amp;#39;s #patriotact tweetchat is starting now at http://is.gd/4N3fv ... join @normative and Shahid Buttar of @BORDC! #p2 #privacy&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Jenny, stay tuned ... take it away Shahid!&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; The long &amp;amp; short of this unfortunate story reflects an about-face by the Obama administration, which ran on a campaign platform emphasizing restoring rule of law principles and civil liberties.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;korkie&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Ask questions the government won&amp;#39;t answer @GetFISARight: Our #patriotact reform tweetchat begins in about to begin&lt;/b&gt;:http://bit.ly/Qq5VE&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;normative&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; Oh yeah, if you can&amp;#39;t make the chat but have #patriotact questions, use that hashtag and we&amp;#39;ll see them &amp;amp; field them for later perusal.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Reflecting perhaps the worst facets of the political dynamic our nation&amp;#39;s capital, the administration has governed in a seemingly diametrically opposed fashion, lobbying the Senate and House to undermine civil liberties protections proposed in each chamber.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid of @BORDC&lt;/b&gt;:The long &amp;amp; short of this unfortunate story reflects an about-face by the Obama administration #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;triv33&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt; I signed the petition, if it hadn&amp;#39;t been for a lonely diary at Kos, I would have had no idea about this.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; when i decided to support Obama back in very early 2008, his stance on civil liberties was a big part of it ... i&amp;#39;m really disappointed in their actions so far&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; The JUSTICE Act was originally proposed by a group of 9 Senators -- including Senator Feingold (D-WI), whose lone vote against the PATRIOT Act in 2001 stands out as a bright historical spot, as well as a sharp contrast to the coalition of 8 colleagues who joined him in proposing robust civil liberties protections this year.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Jim Burrows&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; Glad you came, Triv. That was my diary, http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/11/24/807589/-Get-FISA-Rights-Open-Letter-to-President-Obama&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; Folks please recommend it so it&amp;#39;s less lonely. :-)&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;triv33&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; oh, i rec&amp;#39;d it, but I was oh, so lonely.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;The story of its demise in the Senate is troubling, to say the least. Here&amp;#39;s the tale from inside the beltway&lt;/b&gt;:http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/67459-administration-stares-down-patriot-act-criticism&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; But chances remain to support the JUSTICE Act, which includes the most robust protections for privacy among the bills introduced in Congress. It remains alive in the House, where it was introduced by Rep. Rush Holt.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Amy Ringenbach&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; (in the room, friends)&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Shahid, is there any chance the Holt bill will make it to the floor?&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Unfortunately, the bills emerging from each of the Judiciary Committees are a pale shadow of the JUSTICE Act, and instead essentially reauthorize the three provisions set to expire this year without imposing meaningful limits on the expansive and dangerous authorities created by the Act.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid of @BORDC discussing demise of the JUSTICE Act, cites&lt;/b&gt;:http://bit.ly/72r94k #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;korkie&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; Obama stares down Patriot Act criticism http://bit.ly/hQ76d #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;triv33&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Why isn&amp;#39;t more attention being paid to just how little of any of this is being used against actual terrorism? Or what it is actually being used for?&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Mark&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt; Hello! What&amp;#39;s going on?&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Well, that&amp;#39;s the question -- it largely turns on the House leadership. The bills emerging from the Committees have greater procedural traction, but a &amp;quot;revolt&amp;quot; on the floor could conceivably send the Holt bill to the conference committee.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Jim Burrows&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; Shahid, can you contrast JUSTICE with HR 3845 and 3846 ?&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; That&amp;#39;s the rub, though -- unless the Senate passes something similarly protective (which it won&amp;#39;t) -- whatever protections we do get into the final House bill will get watered down in the inter-chamber conference. And let&amp;#39;s not even begin to imagine what manner of presidential signing statement the administration might concoct to even further eviscerate potential protections that make it out of Congress.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Julian Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;triv33&lt;/b&gt;:Well, some of the stuff is statutorily restricted to counterintel uses. But it&amp;#39;s true that the &amp;quot;sneak and peek&amp;quot; provision, allowing physical searches with delayed notification, has overwhelmingly been used for ordinary drug, fraud, weapons, and tax evasion cases --and only in a tiny, tiny fraction of instances for anything related to terror&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Mark&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Shadid is exactly right.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Shahid, there&amp;#39;s a December 31 deadline. if the House and Senate aren&amp;#39;t in agreement, what&amp;#39;s likely to happen?&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;triv33&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Yes, Julian, that&amp;#39;s what I was getting at, the &amp;quot;sneak and peek&amp;quot; abuses.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; I think the migration of counter-terrorism laws to the routine context (unrelated to national security) is one of the big untold problems. Julian beat me to the punch on sneak &amp;amp; peek, but that&amp;#39;s exactly right -- the PATRIOT Act reflects a political bait &amp;amp; switch, a set of authorities proposed in the name of fighting terror, but increasingly used for completely unrelated purposes.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Julian Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; There were 763 new S&amp;amp;P warrants issued in fiscal 2008. Three were for terrorism cases.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid of @BORDC&lt;/b&gt;:essentially reauthorizes 3 provisions set 2 expire w/out proper limits on dangerous authorities created by the #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Julian Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; In reality, it should come as no surprise, since the FISA already had provision for physical search in intelligence cases--and forget delay, those are totally covert&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Mark&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Can I tweet that Julian about the S&amp;amp;P warrants?&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Julian Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; We&amp;#39;re on the record here&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Julian Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Go nuts&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Mark, and everybody else&lt;/b&gt;:yes, please tweet whatever you find interesting!&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; If we reach the end of the year before Congress attains a consensus, I think we can expect a streamlined bill to re-authorize the expiring provisions on a short-term basis until Congress reconsiders them in the spring.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Mark&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; lol thanks! :)&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Julian mentioned FISA, which is apt given the group on this chat.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;@normative&lt;/b&gt;:sneak &amp;amp; peek&amp;quot;, allowing physical searches w/ delayed notification, has overwhelmingly been used for non-terror cases #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Hegemommy&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; TIme is not out on fixing the #patriotact. Key provisions of JUSTICE can still happen. http://bit.ly/6rDCTb&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Among the elements of the JUSTICE Act of which I was especially fond were (a) a bar on bulk collection through the warrantless wiretapping scheme, as well as (b) a revocation of the telecom immunity enshrined in last year&amp;#39;s legislative debacle.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;korkie&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; #patriotact There were 763 new S&amp;amp;P warrants issued in fiscal 2008. Three were for terrorism cases.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Hegemommy&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;RT @korkie&lt;/b&gt;:#patriotact There were 763 new S&amp;amp;P warrants issued in fiscal 2008. Three were for terrorism cases.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid of @BORDC&lt;/b&gt;:migration of counter-terrorism laws 2 the routine context (unrelated 2 security) is 1 of big untold problems #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; I shouldn&amp;#39;t speak of the bill int he past tense yet, though, as there does remain a chance in the House. The problem is that, with health care and the economy &amp;quot;sucking the air out of the room,&amp;quot; there is little pressure coming from the field to hold Members of Congress accountable, either to their oaths to support the Constitution, or their political constituents.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; that&amp;#39;s where we come in :-)&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; One thing that especially strikes me in all this is the sheer ignorance within DC of the widespread rejection of these authorities across the country. Over 400 cities &amp;amp; towns, as well as 8 states, passed resolutions opposing the PATRIOT Act over the past several years -- but you&amp;#39;d never guess it from the discourse that prevails today. http://www.constitutioncampaign.org/map/resos.php&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;We&amp;#39;re also caught in several political bear traps&lt;/b&gt;:(a) the lack of independent oversight from a complacent Congress inclined to deer to its political leadership in the White House...&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Jim Burrows&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; Shahid, do you have an opinion as to the impact of HR 3845 and 3846 on the JUSTICE Act in the House?&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid of @BORDC&lt;/b&gt;:struck by sheer ignorance within DC of the widespread rejection of these #patriotact authorities across the country&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; The original Conyers bills were strong and certainly a step forward from the bill voted out of the Senate Judiciary Committee, but even the Conyers bill was watered down in the committee earlier this month.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Jim Burrows&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; True enough. Though the Conyers fared better than JUSTICE did over in the Senate.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Julian Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; In a rather mendacious way, I might add. The public summary of the &amp;quot;manager&amp;#39;s amendment&amp;quot; modifying that bill -- which I expect all of about five people read anyway -- is actually rather misleading about the substantive changes it makes to the legislative language.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;picking up that list of bear traps.... (b) Dems, notably including the President, wanting not to look weak on national security. This dynamic is especially frustrating as it reflects political process problems. Is any politician&amp;#39;s, or political party&amp;#39;s, electoral future more important than the Constitution? Whatever we might say in answer to that question, Congress has a recurring MO&lt;/b&gt;:bowing to the political forces of the moment and kicking the constitutional can down the road.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; that&amp;#39;s a great point SHahid&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Jim Burrows&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; I didn&amp;#39;t realize that the &amp;quot;manager&amp;#39;s amendment&amp;quot; weakened it. Missed that. Thanks you.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;HarryWaisbren&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; Shahid, when down with your list of &amp;quot;bear traps&amp;quot;, we&amp;#39;ll kick it over to Julian&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; The history of detention policy is illustrative, in that Congress (as it did with FISA) laid down to acquiesce to expansive claims of executive power. In the detention cases, the Supreme Court fortunately vindicated some of the more fundamental interests (e.g., habeas) at stake -- but there&amp;#39;s no reason to think it would be similarly supportive in the surveillance context, especially given the right wing&amp;#39;s rejection of privacy as a constitutional norm. But I digress....&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Julian Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; It was under the cover of a bunch of &amp;quot;Technical amendments&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;clarifications&amp;quot; -- but it, for instance, carved a big loophole to once again permit &amp;quot;john doe&amp;quot; roving wiretaps in counterespionage (as opposed to counterterror) cases&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; The last one I&amp;#39;d flag is (c) the ephemeral institutional memory of our national electorate, which has essentially forgotten its pervasive concerns over surveillance as the authorities created by the PATRIOT Act have grown entrenched and become part of the &amp;quot;new normal.&amp;quot;&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;normative&lt;/b&gt;:summary of &amp;quot;manager&amp;#39;s amendment&amp;quot; modifying Conyers bill rather misleading on changes it makes 2 legislative language. #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Lindahyattyoung&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;RT @jdp23: Shahid&lt;/b&gt;:little pressure coming from the field to hold Members of Congress accountable on #patriotact and FISA&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;ColinCurtisKS&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;RT @GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:Ask @BarackObama to support #patriotact reform! http://act.ly/1fp Please RT #p2&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;ColinCurtisKS&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;RT @Hegemommy&lt;/b&gt;:Time is not out on fixing the #patriotact. Key provisions of JUSTICE can still happen. http://bit.ly/6rDCTb #p2&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; @normative summary of &amp;quot;manager&amp;#39;s amendment&amp;quot; modifying Conyers bill rather misleading on changes it makes 2 legislative language. #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid of @BORDC: Bear trap to #patriotact reform&lt;/b&gt;:Dems, notably including the President, wanting not to look weak on national security&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Last thing I&amp;#39;ll say for the moment&lt;/b&gt;:keep your eyes on the prize, which is the domestic surveillance regime generally. As noxious as the PATRIOT Act is, even it is a mere tip of an iceberg that also includes the new (and vastly problematic) FBI Guidelines, the warrantless wiretapping scheme (whose outer contours remain secret), and the Suspicious Activities Reporting process. In other words, whatever concerns we raise about PATRIOT, the sum of these various parts is even worse.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid of @BORDC: Congress has a recurring MO&lt;/b&gt;:bowing to the politics of the moment &amp;amp; kicking constitutional can down the road. #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Julian, take it away....!&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Julian Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Well, I hope not the last thing, as I&amp;#39;ve been piping up regularly, and hope Shahid will feel free to do the same&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Julian Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;So, first, painful detail on the roving tap business if anyone&amp;#39;s interested&lt;/b&gt;:http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/11/10/a-bait-and-switch-in-the-house-on-roving-wiretaps/&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Absolutely -- I&amp;#39;m just glad to be out of the hot seat....&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; great overview Shahid thanks so much!&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;HarryWaisbren&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; Yeah Shahid, thanks so much for your commentary, and we&amp;#39;d love to have as much of your perspective as we can!&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Julian Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; And Shahid&amp;#39;s last point is actually an incredibly salient segue point, because I think it&amp;#39;s easy to get lost in the weeds of how NSLs work or what&amp;#39;s wrong with 215 orders in isolation &amp;mdash; happy as I am to go weeding if anyone wants to get extra geeky&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; My pleasure. It&amp;#39;s great to see so many voices, from so many political perspectives, standing together to defend liberty and privacy. These issues have the potential to heal bridge our political continuum, making activism of this sort potentially transformative.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Julian Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; What&amp;#39;s more important, I think, is to see how these fit together to limn a sea change in the way we conduct surveillance&amp;mdash;a macro shift that eclipses all the specific policy points, and yet is weirdly absent from a public discussion that carries on as though we&amp;#39;re still fighting over the procedures we&amp;#39;re going to use to fasten alligator clips and reel-to-reel tape on copper phone lines&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;triv33&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; I have another question, domestic terrorism, it&amp;#39;s written so as to be so deliberately vague, will that stand? It seems that any political demonstration could be called domestic terrorism if the government cared to do so.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; The arena in which the definition of terrorism will most likely get narrowed relates to the &amp;quot;material support&amp;quot; standard, which is before SCOTUS this Term.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;@normative&lt;/b&gt;:public memory tough, too easy 2 get lost in the weeds of how NSLs work or what&amp;#39;s wrong with 215 orders in isolation. #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;joshbuckner&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; Ask @BarackObama to please support #patriotact reform! http://act.ly/1fp Please RT&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Brons&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;@normative &lt;/b&gt;:A Bait-and-Switch in the House on Roving Wiretaps? http://bit.ly/8QxKYx #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Julian Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; And that shift is a transition from the kind of individualized, target-based surveillance contemplated by the Fourth Amendment, the kind of surveillance all our structures of oversight are built to accomodate...&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Brandon at ARL&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; It&amp;#39;s worth mentioning, even emphasizing, that we KNOW as a matter of public record that National Security Letters have been overused and abused repeatedly. That&amp;#39;s in the DOJ Inspector General&amp;#39;s reporting. http://judiciary.senate.gov/hearings/testimony.cfm?id=2616&amp;amp;wit_id=6193&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid of @BORDC&lt;/b&gt;:great 2 see so many voices, from so many political perspectives standing together 2 defend liberty &amp;amp; #privacy! #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Julian Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; ...to what some legal scholars are calling &amp;quot;dataveillance&amp;quot; -- where it&amp;#39;s not a target selected for scrutiny of his communications, but the stream of communications and metadata itself that is surveilled in order to locate targets&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Julian and Shahid, Fusion Centers, Secure Flight [or whatever it&amp;#39;s called these days] and the various data mining initiatives all fit in with this general movement&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;@normative&lt;/b&gt;:sea change in the way we conduct surveillance&amp;mdash;a macro shift that eclipses all the specific policy points. #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Julian Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; We are issuing 20-50 THOUSAND national security letters each year. FBI ops manuals show that each NSL can have multiple targets and multiple recipients. If there were a fraction that many terrorists in the country, the eastern seaboard would be a smoking crater by now&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; That&amp;#39;s exactly right. Fusion centers are problematic for their own reasons. I&amp;#39;d draw attention back to Julian&amp;#39;s point about the new paradigm being offensive because it&amp;#39;s focused on identifying potential threats before they act. The &amp;quot;preventive paradigm,&amp;quot; to borrow others&amp;#39; phrases, is not only constitutionally dubious, but a fiction of junk science.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Julian Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; We are not surveilling people anymore. We are surveilling populations. So when the administration fights to permit &amp;quot;roving wiretaps&amp;quot; based on a mere &amp;quot;description&amp;quot; of a group, rather than a particular individual&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Jim Burrows&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; Julian, isn&amp;#39;t one thing that draws us towards the &amp;quot;dataveilance&amp;quot; model the fact that it is actually relatively hard to narrow the search if the place you are tapping is the Internet backbone. With email in the clear and the human identities tied to the ip addresses and domain names obscured, it is just plain easier to sweep up everything.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;korkie&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;RT @GetFISARight: Shahid of @BORDC: Bear trap 2 #patriotact reform&lt;/b&gt;:the ephemeral institutional memory of national electorate, forgotten ...&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;korkie&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;RT @GetFISARight: Shahid of @BORDC: Bear trap to #patriotact reform&lt;/b&gt;:Dems, notably including the President, wanting not to look weak on ...&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Julian Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; That should be seen in the context of the NSL power, which makes it feasible to have a group &amp;quot;description&amp;quot; that consists of an abstract pattern of connections, like a social graph. And Jim&amp;#39;s right, that&amp;#39;s driven in part by the fact that we&amp;#39;ve got a legal structure based on the presumption of geographically limited surveillance with targets in known locations&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Jim Burrows&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; Not that I&amp;#39;m frgiving the intrusion and violation of Constitutionally protected rights. I&amp;#39;m just looking at the circumstances that help entice us into it.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;korkie&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;RT @GetFISARight: @normative&lt;/b&gt;:Conyers bill watered down in a rather mendacious way. #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;korkie&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;RT @GetFISARight: Shahid of @BORDC&lt;/b&gt;:even the Conyers bill was watered down in the committee earlier this month. #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;sarahburris&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;RT @GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:Ask @BarackObama to support #patriotact reform! http://act.ly/1fp Please RT #p2&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;korkie&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;RT @GetFISARight: RT @Hegemommy&lt;/b&gt;:TIme is not out on fixing the #patriotact. Key provisions of JUSTICE can still happen. http://bit.ly/6rDCTb&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;@normative&lt;/b&gt;:shift to what legal scholars are calling &amp;quot;dataveillance&amp;quot; --not a target selected for scrutiny of his communications. #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;korkie&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;RT @GetFISARight: Shahid of @BORDC&lt;/b&gt;:Over 400 cities &amp;amp; towns, as well as 8 states, passed resolutions opposing the #patriotact over the p ...&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;korkie&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;RT @GetFISARight: Shahid of @BORDC&lt;/b&gt;:reach the end of the year before Congress attains a consensus on #patriotact, reauthorize short term ...&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;@normative&lt;/b&gt;:not target, but the stream of communications and metadata itself that is surveilled in order to locate targets. #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; The &amp;quot;junk science&amp;quot; point is very important. It&amp;#39;d be great to get the technical community involved in debunking the bad science -- and publicizing the debunking -- just as they have with voting rights.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Julian Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; RIght, I mean, the intel people are not just *making things up* when they say that new technologies have made things hard for them under the old legal structuresw&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Julian Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; It is genuinely hard to handle e-mail in a reasonable way under the four-part FISA structure of &amp;quot;electronic surveillance&amp;quot;&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Whether data in the public record is at all probative of a predisposition towards violence is the ultimate question there. But it&amp;#39;s not&lt;/b&gt;:you simply can&amp;#39;t tell which person out of a population may be driven to violence based on what food they buy from the grocery store. If anything, this sort of dragnet is counter-productive, because it inundates analysts with false leads. I&amp;#39;ll try to find a link to share for more on this notion.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Julian Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Never mind a chat session conducted using TOR&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Julian Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Oh yeah, the National Academy of Sciences did a long and thorough report concluding that *predictive* data mining is basically useless&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;@normative&lt;/b&gt;:legal structure based on the presumption of geographically limited surveillance with targets in known locations. #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Hegemommy&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;RT @GetFISARight: Julian Sanchez aka @normative&lt;/b&gt;:We are not surveilling people anymore. We are surveilling populations. #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;@jdp23&lt;/b&gt;:&amp;quot;junk science&amp;quot; point is very important. It&amp;#39;d be great to get the technical community involved. #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Jim Burrows&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; Absolutely, Shahid. There is no substitute in the intelligence (meaning spying) game than intelligence (meaning smarts). Sweeping hideous quantities of data and doing questionable statistical analysis on the basis of what the last nut case did to prediect the next one gets you chasing shadows.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;triv33&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Are you telling me the toppings on my pizza are not a vital clue? They need that data!&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Julian Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; There are other forms of potentially greater use. A social graph is like a fingerprint, so if you&amp;#39;re following a particular network via, say, their cell communications, it may be possible to use that pattern to find a net of anonymous online accounts corresponding to those people&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;@normative&lt;/b&gt;:intel people not making things up when they say new tech has made things hard 4 them under the old legal structures. #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; also, the &amp;quot;objective&amp;quot; analyses that get applied to the data frequently embed societal or individual biases. i looked at from a computer science theory perspective back when I was in Microsoft Research&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;@normative&lt;/b&gt;:It&amp;#39;s genuinely hard to handle e-mail in a reasonable way under 4 part FISA structure of &amp;quot;electronic surveillance&amp;quot;. #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;@normative&lt;/b&gt;:National Academy of Sciences did thorough report concluding that *predictive* data mining is basically useless. #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Jim Burrows&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; (excuse the awkward wording in that. Reading and writing at once is too much for my dyslexic brain.)&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Julian Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; This is just to say, the term &amp;quot;data mining&amp;quot; is almost uselessly broad. This Minority Report fantasy that you&amp;#39;re going to pluck potential terrorists from a national pool of credit card records is profoundly stupid, but there are a range of more targeted traffic or transaction analysis approaches we may or may not want to permit&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;EndTheRoboCalls&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; Today - #HTT - #HashTagTues - let us know which hashies you are following and why. Me - #privacy and #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;PrivacyCampDC&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; Today - #HTT - #HashTagTues - let us know which hashies you are following and why. Me - #privacy and #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;MS0M303&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; Today - #HTT - #HashTagTues - let us know which hashies you are following and why. Me - #privacy and #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;SotomayorScotus&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; Today - #HTT - #HashTagTues - let us know which hashies you are following and why. Me - #privacy and #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;PCDCNtwk&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; Today - #HTT - #HashTagTues - let us know which hashies you are following and why. Me - #privacy and #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;RT @normative&lt;/b&gt;:National Academy of Sciences did thorough report concluding that *predictive* data mining is basically useless. #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;@normative&lt;/b&gt;:A social graph is like a fingerprint, so if following a particular network via, say, their cell communications...#patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Julian Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; What is totally irresponsible, though, is to act like we&amp;#39;re still doing old-school target/suspicion/investigation intelligence work, and try to modify a structure of checks built for that to accomodate the new surveillance without being up-front about what we&amp;#39;re doing&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Here (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/04/AR2006020401373.html) is a story from 3 years ago documenting the inundation of analysts by false leads.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Julian Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Absolutely&amp;mdash;that was with respect, as I recall, to the NSA wiretap program&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Julian Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Probably using keyword flagging of communications&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Absolutely -- we have fundamentally changed the paradigm since 2001, and with a minimum of process and deliberation. No one read te PATRIOT Act when it first passed, and now we&amp;#39;re onto the second round of reauthorization with the implicit (and erroneous) presumption that the current law is a legitimate baseline from which to move forward.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Julian Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Just to hit a point Shahid made earlier about creep&lt;/b&gt;:It&amp;#39;s important to remeber that even when they&amp;#39;re gathering information for legitimate intelligence purposes -- and history shows that (bar Nixon, who was an exceptionally shameless bastard) that&amp;#39;s how intel abuses usually started -- it doesn&amp;#39;t get thrown out. It gets kept. And can be used LATER when someone wants to pull up that database for routine criminal enforcement purposes.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;korkie&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;RT @PCDCNtwk&lt;/b&gt;:Today - #HTT - #HashTagTues - let us know which hashies you are following and why. Me - #privacy and #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;@normative&lt;/b&gt;:Minority Report fantasy u&amp;#39;re going 2 pluck potential terrorists from national pool of credit card records is stupid. #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Julian Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; And it will not happen next week, or next year. It will happen in a decade when a massive government database of transaction and communication records about every man woman and child in the country is normal; when reasonable moderates wonder why all the hysterics ever thought it was a source for concern&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;leareiter&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;RT @BORDC&lt;/b&gt;:@GetFISARight Open Letter to President Obama http://bit.ly/gfrbordc #patriotact #privacy&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Julian Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; And suddenly it will seem downright *wasteful* not to use that perfectly good database not to hunt down tax cheats and dope smokers and... hell, by then probably Marlboro smokers too&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; and we do love government efficiency!&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Julian Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; The problem with Patriot is not the abuse it permits right now. It&amp;#39;s the architecture of control -- possibly through misuse, but just as possibly in perfect accord with the letter of the law -- it enables for tomorrow.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;korkie&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;RT @BORDC&lt;/b&gt;:@GetFISARight Open Letter to President Obama http://bit.ly/gfrbordc #patriotact #privacy&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid of @BORDC&lt;/b&gt;:fundamentally changed the paradigm since 2001, and with a minimum of process and deliberation. #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Julian Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; OK, I&amp;#39;ll shut up now. Jon?&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Thanks!&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;healthycitizens&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;RT @korkie&lt;/b&gt;:Obama stares down Patriot Act criticism http://bit.ly/hQ76d #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid of @BORDC&lt;/b&gt;:No one read #patriotact when it first passed, and now we&amp;#39;re onto the second round of reauthorization. Still illegitmiate.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;korkie&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;RT @GetFISARight: Shahid of @BORDC&lt;/b&gt;:No one read #patriotact when it first passed, and now we&amp;#39;re onto the second round of reauthorizatio ...&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; First I&amp;#39;d like to set this in the context of civil liberties activism in general. The Patriot Act battle going on now is a basis for the battles next year ... and next Congressional term.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; These issues are complex, and the media doesn&amp;#39;t like to cover them. When they do, the coverage is simplistic. Almost nobody&amp;#39;s covering the fundamental change in paradigm Julian and Shahid are talking about.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Jim Burrows&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; Likewise, Julian, with Obama&amp;#39;s willingness to use the overabundance of executive authority in general that Bush accumulated. He&amp;#39;s only using it for good, so what&amp;#39;s teh harm? The harm of course is when a future President turns out to be another &amp;quot;Little Colonel&amp;quot;.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; When you talk with people one-on-one, they get it. People around the country hate the Patriot Act. BORDC&amp;#39;s local initiatives in 2001/2002 were evidence of it. So are the Twitter conversations.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Jim Burrows&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &amp;quot;Little Corporal&amp;quot;. I&amp;#39;m going back to bed after this all done. I cannot get anything straight.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;@normative&lt;/b&gt;:And suddenly it will seem downright wasteful not 2 use that perfectly good database. Hunt tax cheats &amp;amp; dope smokers. #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; The challenge is how to get around the media blockade, which keeps DC from realizing the extent of the opposition ... and keeps people from knowing how they can put pressure on the administration and context.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; That&amp;#39;s crucial for the longer-term battle. We need to demonstrate our strength now, and then start influencing primaries and congressional elections. So the connections we&amp;#39;re making and the techniques we&amp;#39;re pioneering here are the basis for the future.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; OK, now on to the activism.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Julian Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Media loves a narrative. Gerald Ford is Clumsy. Al Gore is stiff. George Bush garbles English. The narrative right now is fevered partisan polarization. A story where Obama is working with Blue Dogs and Republicans against liberal Dems (at least in terms of the legislative players&amp;mdash;some of us libertarians are still out here) doesn&amp;#39;t fit&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;triv33&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Some people get it, some people refuse to believe that it could ever be used against them. They honestly think it&amp;#39;s only to be used for terrorism, they do not get it.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;JeffM2001&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;RT @GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:Ask @BarackObama to support #patriotact reform! http://act.ly/1fp Please RT #p2&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;@normative&lt;/b&gt;:biggest problem with #patriotact is architecture of control it enables for tomorrow&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Hegemommy&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;RT @GetFISARight: @normative&lt;/b&gt;:biggest problem with #patriotact is architecture of control it enables for tomorrow&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Jim Burrows&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; Go, activism!&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; that&amp;#39;s a great point Julian&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; let me just detour for a second and talk about the narrative&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; because it relates to the activism&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Get FISA Right&amp;#39;s open letter last summer cracked through because it played into the narrative of social networks transforming politics&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;korkie&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;RT @GetFISARight: @normative&lt;/b&gt;:biggest problem with #patriotact is architecture of control it enables for tomorrow&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;@jdp23&lt;/b&gt;:these issues are complex, and the media doesn&amp;#39;t like to cover them. When they do, the coverage is simplistic. #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;@jdp23&lt;/b&gt;:We need to demonstrate our strength now, and then start influencing primaries and congressional elections. #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; people knew that MyBO, Facebook, YouTube etc. were part of why Obama was winning ...&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; and wanted to write about it. there&amp;#39;s also a powerful element of &amp;quot;this is the future of political organizing&amp;quot;, the first time something like this had happened&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Hegemommy&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; The average citizen doesn&amp;#39;t think #patriotact affects their life, but it does. Do you know who looked at your medical records?&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;korkie&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;RT @Hegemommy: RT @GetFISARight: @normative&lt;/b&gt;:biggest problem with #patriotact is architecture of control it enables for tomorrow&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;@jdp23&lt;/b&gt;:So the connections we&amp;#39;re making and the techniques we&amp;#39;re pioneering here are the basis for the future. #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;korkie&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;RT @GetFISARight: @jdp23&lt;/b&gt;:So the connections we&amp;#39;re making and the techniques we&amp;#39;re pioneering here are the basis for the future. #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; i think the comparable narrative going forward is to combine the online social media activism with the offline local organizing like BORDC&amp;#39;s local ordinance campaigh&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; &amp;quot;New media&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;social media&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;social network sites&amp;quot; ... these are ways people can talk to their friends and relatives about the issues. And when enough people start talking, the traditional media starts to listen.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; So now&amp;#39;s the time to put it all together online -- as a complement to the other activism online and off from ACLU, EFF, American Library Association and of course BORDC.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; We collaboratively wrote the open letter, going through several editing passes -- you can see them on the blog if you&amp;#39;re really interested.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; People can sign on in various ways&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;BORDC offered to host it at http://bit.ly/gfrbordc/ ... We also have it on Change.org http://bit.ly/gfrchange/ And Care2 at http://www.thepetitionsite.com/petition/899417535 And on Twitter, as an act.ly petition&lt;/b&gt;:http://act.ly/1fp&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; oops sorry the Care2 link is at http://www.thepetitionsite.com/petition/899417535&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; and now the challenge is to get the word out&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; share it with your friends in email&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; if you&amp;#39;re on Facebook or MySPace, post it on your wall -- and if you have friends who you know would be interested, share it with them&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; If you&amp;#39;re on Twitter, please tweet it&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;triv33&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; went to the blog to see the letters this morning, I will be passing it along via e-mail&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;RT @GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:Ask @BarackObama to support #patriotact reform! http://act.ly/1fp Please RT #p2&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;@jdp23&lt;/b&gt;:when enough people start talking, the traditional media starts to listen. #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; thanks triv33!&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; and if you have a blog, please blog about it ...&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;@jdp23&lt;/b&gt;:So now&amp;#39;s the time to put it all together online -- as a complement to the other activism online and offline. #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;korkie&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;RT @GetFISARight: @jdp23&lt;/b&gt;:when enough people start talking, the traditional media starts to listen. #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;RT @GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:Ask @BarackObama to support #patriotact reform! http://is.gd/52J8z Please RT #p2&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;emilycrockett&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;RT @GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:Ask @BarackObama to support #patriotact reform! http://act.ly/1fp Please RT&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;GetFISARight&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;@jdp23&lt;/b&gt;:We collaboratively wrote the open letter, going through several editing passes. #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Brons&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;RT @GetFISARight: @jdp23&lt;/b&gt;:when enough people start talking, the traditional media starts to listen. #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; we&amp;#39;ve got a link to the blog posts so far at http://getfisaright.wordpress.com/2009/11/24/blog-posts-about-the-open-letter/&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; if you blog about it, please add yours there!&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; That&amp;#39;s a heck of a lot of links I know ... the best way to stay in touch is to come back here, to the Patriot Act action hub&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; we keep it updated with the latest links and ways of taking action&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Julian Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Thanks for pulling everything together Jon, and thanks to everyone who came by or followed along in the Twitterverse.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; we also update our suggested tweets fairly often; there&amp;#39;s a link here, or you can follow along on the blog&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Thanks for being here, Julian ... it was Harry and the rest of the GFR crew who pulled things together, I just came along for the ride :-)&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; any quesions on the activism aspects before we wrap it up?&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Julian Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Well then I withdrawn my thanks and transfer them to Harry. But thanks all the same just for being you.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; :-)&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;triv33&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Thanks for doing this.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;jdp23&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; thanks for showing up, triv33!&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Fochik&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; RT @GetFISARight #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;korkie&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;RT @Brons: RT @GetFISARight: @jdp23&lt;/b&gt;:when enough people start talking, the traditional media starts to listen. #patriotact&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;triv33&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; anytime.&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;HarryWaisbren&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; Thanks a lot Julian, Shahid, the GFR team, triv33, and everyone else following along for participating!&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Jim Burrows&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; Yes. Thank you everyone. Even you Jon. :-)&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Jim Burrows&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; Yes. Thank you everyone. Even you Jon. :-)&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Emily&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt; Thanks for an interesting discussion, fellas. Just caught it at the tail end&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Julian Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Rockin, thanks again all. Transform and roll out!&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Shahid&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Thanks, everybody. Let&amp;#39;s go get &amp;#39;em....&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;korkie&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; ☺&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;korkie&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; thank you&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;BleuZ00m&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Thank you Julian and Shahid! That was amazing!   Now, we&amp;#39;ll multiple your thunder.. Underway. Jon, Harry, Korkie: Phew!!&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;HarryWaisbren&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Alright, this was a fantatsic tweetchat! The comments exhibit how much better the media can do to cover this issue, and we have a great base to spread these words even more on twitter!&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;BleuZ00m&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; And Hello and a huge THANK YOU Triv33!&lt;br&gt; 	&lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;HarryWaisbren&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;br&gt; Thanks again, and have a wonderful thanksgiving everyone! &lt;br&gt; ☺&lt;br&gt;&lt;hr size=&quot;1&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;</description></item><item><title>Media Resources for Patriot Act &amp; FISA Reform</title><link>http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Media+Resources+for+Patriot+Act+%26+FISA+Reform</link><author>Hwaisbren</author><guid isPermaLink="false">http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Media+Resources+for+Patriot+Act+%26+FISA+Reform</guid><pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:32:54 CST</pubDate><description>&lt;div align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;bottom&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; class=&quot;WPC-edit-style-none WPC-edit-border-none WPC-edit-styleData-color1=%23ebebeb&amp;color2=%23c7c7c7&quot; width=&quot;100%&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;center&quot; class=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;22%&quot;&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;4&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;center&quot; bgcolor=&quot;#a8f7c9&quot; class=&quot;WPC-edit-custom-bgColor&quot; width=&quot;54%&quot;&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;4&quot;&gt;This page will be used to aggregate resources for media to cover Patriot Act and FISA news and action campaigns.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Get FISA Right has now launched our new Open Letter to President Obama&lt;br&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;23%&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;bottom&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; class=&quot;WPC-edit-style-none WPC-edit-border-none WPC-edit-styleData-color1=%23ebebeb&amp;color2=%23c7c7c7&quot; width=&quot;100%&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;50%&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;The USA Patriot Amendments Act of 2009 (HR 3845 &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://www.eff.org/files/text_USA_Patriot_Amendments_Act_of_2009_Oct_20.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;bill pdf via EFF&lt;/a&gt;):&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;50%&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;The FISA Amendment Act of 2009 (HR 3846 &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://www.eff.org/files/text_FISA_Amendments_Act_of_2009_Oct_20.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;bill pdf via EFF&lt;/a&gt;):&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot; WPC-edit-custom-borderLeft WPC-edit-borderLeft-none WPC-edit-custom-borderLeft WPC-edit-borderRight-solid WPC-edit-custom-borderRight&quot; width=&quot;50%&quot;&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Like Sen. Feingold&amp;rsquo;s JUSTICE Act, this bill provides a substantial number of new checks and balances to curb the government&amp;rsquo;s spying powers under the Patriot Act.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot; WPC-edit-borderLeft-solid WPC-edit-custom-borderLeft&quot; width=&quot;50%&quot;&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;This bill is directed at reforming last year&amp;rsquo;s FISA Amendments Act (FAA), which broadly expanded the government&amp;rsquo;s authority to wiretap Americans without warrants.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Even worse, the FAA did this by granting immunity to telecommunications companies who broke the law through assisting in the NSA&amp;rsquo;s warrantless wiretapping program.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Fortunately, this bill repeals the FAA&amp;#39;s telco immunity provision&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Very importantly, this bill prohibits the &amp;quot;bulk collection&amp;quot; of Americans&amp;#39; emails and phone calls amidst many other reforms&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;For more details, EFF has provided a pdf &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://www.eff.org/files/The_FISA_Amendments_Act_of_2009_Section_by_Section_101909.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;section by section analysis&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;bottom&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; class=&quot;WPC-edit-style-none WPC-edit-border-none WPC-edit-styleData-color1=%23ebebeb&amp;color2=%23c7c7c7&quot; width=&quot;100%&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;33%&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Ongoing Campaigns&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;33%&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;News Roundup&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;33%&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Other Resources&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;33%&quot;&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://getfisaright.wordpress.com/2009/11/22/final-draft-of-our-open-letter-to-obama/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Our Open Letter to President Obama&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tweet from our list of &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://getfisaright.wordpress.com/2009/11/23/suggested-tweets/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Suggested Tweets&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Send this&lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttps://secure.eff.org/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&amp;page=UserAction&amp;id=443&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt; EFF action alert&lt;/a&gt; to your congressman&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Take &lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttps://secure.aclu.org/site/Advocacy?pagename=homepage&amp;id=1779&amp;page=UserAction&amp;s_src=UNW090001ACT&amp;s_subsrc=fullalert_102709&amp;JServSessionIdr003=8rp1bkel93.app20a&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;ACLU action&lt;/a&gt;: Ask your representative to co-sponsor the USA Patriot Amendments Act of 2009.  &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Send a &lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Letters+to+the+Editor+Templates&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;Letter to the Editor &lt;/a&gt;using our template&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;33%&quot;&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Feingold, Wyden, Durbin will receive &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://washingtonindependent.com/68329/holder-promises-to-produce-evidence-requested-on-usa-patriot-act&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;evidence on section 215&lt;/a&gt;, the &amp;quot;business records provision&amp;quot; from AG Holder&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Kim Zetter&amp;#39;s &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/11/patriot-act/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Handy Chart Tracks Proposed Amendments to the Patriot Act&lt;/a&gt; discusses CDT&amp;#39;s side-by-side analysis of the House and Senate bills &lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-conyers/a-patriots-patriot-act_b_344480.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;HJC Chairman John Conyers&lt;/a&gt; takes to the Huffington Post to discuss the Patriot Act reform bils&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The Center for Democracy and Technology discusses how the House Patriot Act bill draws broad support on account of &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://blog.cdt.org/2009/10/29/house-patriot-act-bill-draws-broad-support-on-account-of-national-security-letter-fix/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;National Security Letter fix&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://getfisaright.wordpress.com/2009/10/30/social-network-activism-and-the-future-of-civil-liberties/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Jon Pincus posts&lt;/a&gt; on social network activism and the future of civil liberties &lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;EFF explains the two &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/10/breaking-news-house-representatives-enters-patriot&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;new surveillance bills&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;33%&quot;&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://getfisaright.wordpress.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Get FISA Right blog&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Last summer&amp;#39;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/An+open+letter+to+Senator+Obama&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;Open Letter &lt;/a&gt;and &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/rospars/gGxsZF/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Obama&amp;#39;s response to us&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Wired.com chart tracking &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/11/patriot-act/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;proposed amendments&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The &amp;quot;techie&amp;quot; side of &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://getfisaright.wordpress.com/2009/11/13/the-techie-side-of-getting-it-right/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Getting it Right&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#333333&quot;&gt;List of&lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/House+Judiciary+Committee+Social+Media+Accounts&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/House+Judiciary+Committee+Social+Media+Accounts&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;House Judiciary Committee members Twitter and Facebook accounts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#333333&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/JUSTICE+Bill+activism+on+Twitter&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;Instructions for Twitter&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/If+you%27re+new+to+Twitter&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;getting-started info&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;About Get FISA Right&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;The &amp;quot;Senator Obama, Please Get FISA Right&amp;quot; MyBo group started organically before a group of volunteers helped it go viral in 2008. Bloggers were undoubtedly instrumental in that effort through their writing----and we need your help again today!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As the MyBo group gained a large following, we used a wiki/collaborative process to create an&lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/An+open+letter+to+Senator+Obama&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt; open letter to Obama&lt;/a&gt;. A vast amount of blog coverage begot MSM &lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Coverage&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;coverage&lt;/a&gt;, and in unprecedented fashion Obama &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/rospars/gGxsZF/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;responded to the group&lt;/a&gt; both on MyBo and on the Huffington Post. We lost the legislative battle--and the content of Obama&amp;#39;s response was not what we were hoping for--but we were successful at helping change the national debate, attaining Obama&amp;#39;s attention, and successfully opening up a direct line of communication with him.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now, with PATRIOT Act and FISA reform coming up, many of us are back and ready to expand upon last summers&amp;#39; successes. Please join us &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://my.barackobama.com/page/group?q=get+fisa+right&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Organizing for America&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=17961184023&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://groups.myspace.com/getfisaright&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; MySpace&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://twitter.com/getfisaright&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com../&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;Wetpaint&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;hr size=&quot;1&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;</description></item><item><title>November 23 open letter launch call</title><link>http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/November+23+open+letter+launch+call</link><author>Hwaisbren</author><guid isPermaLink="false">http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/November+23+open+letter+launch+call</guid><pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:48:11 CST</pubDate><description>&lt;div align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;4&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;bottom&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; class=&quot;WPC-edit-style-none WPC-edit-border-none WPC-edit-styleData-color1=%23ebebeb&amp;color2=%23c7c7c7&quot; width=&quot;100%&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;center&quot; class=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;22%&quot;&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;4&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;center&quot; bgcolor=&quot;#a8f7c9&quot; class=&quot;WPC-edit-custom-bgColor&quot; width=&quot;52%&quot;&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;4&quot;&gt;Launching the Open Letter&lt;b&gt;: &lt;/b&gt;A Patriot Act and FISA call&lt;br&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;Monday: 4pm PST/ 7pm EST&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/font&gt;Dialin:                                                                               1-219-509-8111 Access code: 705723&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You are cordially invited to a phone call and online chat to discuss the launch of our &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://getfisaright.wordpress.com/2009/11/22/final-draft-of-our-open-letter-to-obama/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;open letter to the president.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Please join in pre-meeting discussions &lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://getfisaright.wordpress.com/2009/10/25/continuing-the-conversation/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;on the Get FISA RIght blog&lt;/a&gt; or in the chat room below!&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;25%&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;bottom&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; class=&quot;WPC-edit-style-grid1 WPC-edit-border-all WPC-edit-styleData-color1=%23ebebeb&amp;color2=%23c7c7c7&quot; width=&quot;100%&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;50%&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Goals&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Go over final details and next steps for launch of the open letter&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Coordinate on plans for outreach&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Go over any last questions and details for the tweetchat launch event Tuesday morning&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt; Test run for new tweetchat moderators in the chat log&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;b&gt;Agenda &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Intro, goal, agenda check. (5 min)&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Update on legislative status (5 min)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Launching open letter discussion(20-30 min)&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tweetchat final questions and details (10-15 min)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Action items and next steps (5 min)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Blog and media outreach (10+ min, for those who want to stay around)&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;b&gt;Join in pre-meeting discussions on the Get FISA Right blog or in the chat room to the right&lt;font color=&quot;#ffa500&quot;&gt;-------------------------------------------&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#333333&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;Resources&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Open letter&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://getfisaright.wordpress.com/2009/11/22/final-draft-of-our-open-letter-to-obama/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; final draft&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Media+Contact+List&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;Media contact list&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tuesday&amp;#39;s&lt;a class=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.comhttp://getfisaright.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/tuesdays-tweetchat/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; tweetchat details&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;50%&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;hr size=&quot;1&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;</description></item><item><title>Harry's fall open letter launch post</title><link>http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Harry%27s+fall+open+letter+launch+post</link><author>Hwaisbren</author><guid isPermaLink="false">http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Harry%27s+fall+open+letter+launch+post</guid><pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:32:16 CST</pubDate><description>There is no abstract available for this page revision.&lt;hr size=&quot;1&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;</description></item><item><title>November 19 call key takeaways notes</title><link>http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/November+19+call+key+takeaways+notes</link><author>BleuZ00m</author><guid isPermaLink="false">http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/November+19+call+key+takeaways+notes</guid><comments>Fixed mis-spellings. Isolating bullet points, links for 'bibliography.'</comments><pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:16:51 CST</pubDate><description>&lt;b&gt;Action items&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: 7 pm EST call Monday. Don&amp;#39;t separate it as an event, just something for us to now about as a fall back&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Participants&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;Chip, Jim, Mark, Jon, Korkie, Brandon, Harry, Amy&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Legislative situation&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Update from TPM, healthcare cloture vote is Saturday. News fallout re: HCR expected Monday. Vote to proceed, read aloud, debate not till after thanksgiving.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: instinct last time was right. Shoot for this brief hiatus next week seems as good a chance as any.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br&gt;What&amp;#39;s the open letter&amp;#39;s ask&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark role play&lt;b&gt; &lt;/b&gt;Role Play: suppose I&amp;rsquo;m the key White House staffer who could get this to the President, and you have me on the phone right now. Staffer: &amp;ldquo;OK, your letter was called to my attention and I get that you&amp;rsquo;re 23,000 Obamamaniac community organizers, and you want more progressive stuff in the Patriot re-authorization, and you&amp;rsquo;re about to go viral. Fine. I work 24&amp;times;7 for the President. You have 30 seconds to tell me what exactly you want him to do. That&amp;rsquo;s all the time I&amp;rsquo;ll get on this in the Oval.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;what i said: I want him to support HR 3845 and 3846 (along with the addition of equivalent protections to the Senate Bill), to work with AG Holder to provide the information about Section 215 not just to Congress but to the American public as well.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: my experience in these power-based negotiations, is it&amp;#39;s important to have an ask that frames the conversation going forward, drives the tempo of what we&amp;#39;re expecting in a concrete time-frame&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: maybe bullet points are the key, specific legislation is the footnote after that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;pointer to CDT blog: http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2009/11/16/a-handy-patriot-act-cheat-sheet/&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Brandon: think about priority, list in some order. NSLs got to be at the top. 215s. Lone wolf. Might erupt in unnecessary argument, but agree on top few. Transparency in the process.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: think lone wolf. don&amp;#39;t want to lose sneak and peak too.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;top issues: NSLs, 215, lone wolf, sneak and peak, transparent process&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;material support aspect&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;bullet points: NSLs, 215, lone wolf, sneak and peak, material support, transparent process&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br&gt;Steps to letter launch&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;Jon: steps to relaunch on open letter&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; Jon: minor re-work to get bullet points, crisp up ask&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;Jon: finalize it. get it to BORDC so they can post it. From last call, discussing some way where people can sign on by clicking a web page without signing for OFA, BORDC offered to host. A site we point people to to sign.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Harry Waisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: Jessica Pieklo on Care2 post it on petition site. large and complementary audience.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: important to reach both. People on Care2 not likely to be in our current audience.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: finalize on Friday. Get ready over weekend. Launch Monday evening&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: very much shooting for that is Tuesday. Monday is prime pumping, Tuesday is launch and event, with idea of getting things to spark Tuesday&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br&gt;Other open letter notes&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Links in the letter for references&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Building media/blogger resources page&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Chip: David Cole has been one of the best historically. Deals extensively with material support issue.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: feel like what we need to complement the letter is a bibliography page. Almost like a complementary formatting, organized by these, key posts for each one.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Amy: Mark, Jim, I make template for blogs. standard ap langugae, customize it.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Tweetchat&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: format, short intro about GFR. Open letter are sending.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Chip: I can be a resource on technical FISA issues. Substantive things that would be helpful to reinforce our letter. refute myths that there have been no abuse. cluster of unitary executive issues, including links to 215, data mining, warrant-less surveillance&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Harry Waisbren: &lt;br&gt;Chip: needed to get technical about FISA amendments act&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Chip: depending on format, could do a 3-5 minute on each issue.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Chip: other element is mission creep. 218, not up for renewal, blurred criminal and foreign intelligence regime. effectively allowing the lower than probable cause standard to infect normal criminal work.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Chip: patriot act power now being used more for domestic criminals than originally terrorist aspect sold as&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: one interesting thing to have Julian talk about is the media environment. Coverage or not&lt;br&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;he&amp;#39;s nonpartisan, has had success getting into media before, and we will work to spread his video&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br&gt;Chip: unique platform. CATO can&amp;#39;t affiliate with other groups or lobbying, but he can make the case that it&amp;#39;s nonpartisan issues. Crucial message need to be heard more broadly&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: make sure to set up an email or blog thread ahead of time to let people know what questions you will feel people are asking, roughly how long to spend on each area.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: find out as we&amp;#39;re talking to others beforehand other topics we want to include&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Jim: I can help moderate&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Jon: trying to get patriot act hashtag to trend on twitter during tweetchat&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: trained about a dozen from privacy coalition, hopefully some of them will be interested as well&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: chunk of this not just partisan, but information, so 501cs and organizations themselves would feel safer about tweeting&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	Jon: invite journalists to come to the tweetchat. More compelling&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	Jon: if it goes so much, need another service like twazzup or twubbs.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: make GFR media twitter account&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;use media contact list? http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Media+Contact+List&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;hr size=&quot;1&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;</description></item><item><title>November 19 call media outreach notes</title><link>http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/November+19+call+media+outreach+notes</link><author>Hwaisbren</author><guid isPermaLink="false">http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/November+19+call+media+outreach+notes</guid><pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:12:12 CST</pubDate><description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/November+19+organizing+call+chat+log&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;Available in chat lot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&amp;#39;ll make a new table on the medai contact list with these names and that makes it easy to aggreage our press coverage&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;if we want people to come to the launch on Tuesday, we need to contact them on Monday&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;openleft: Harry to contact Chris&lt;br&gt;&lt;hr size=&quot;1&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;</description></item><item><title>November 19 organizing call chat log</title><link>http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/November+19+organizing+call+chat+log</link><author>Hwaisbren</author><guid isPermaLink="false">http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/November+19+organizing+call+chat+log</guid><pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:39:48 CST</pubDate><description>November 19 call &lt;a href=&quot;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/November+19+organizing+call&quot; target=&quot;_self&quot;&gt;home page&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[Comment From JimB.JimB.: ] &lt;br&gt;Hi, Harry. And anyone else...&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Hello to Jim and anyone else joining us for the call/following along in the online chat!&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Jim Burrows: &lt;br&gt;Cool. For once Cover It Live didn&amp;#39;t fight me.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;[Comment From jdp23 jdp23: ] &lt;br&gt;hi all&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;harry, chip, jim, mark, jon, ...&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Brandon from reserach library just joined in&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: posted on blog thread. Update from TPM, healthcare cloture vote is saturday. Vote to proceed, read aloud, debate not till after thanksgiving.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: instinct last time was right. Shoot for htis brief hiatus next week seems as good a chance as any.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: Mark brought up point in blog thread---what&amp;#39;s our ask?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: key whitehouse staffer that we get it to the president, what do we say to them? 30 seconds to say exaclty waht you wnat him to do.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;here&amp;#39;s the phrasing from the blog:&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;Role Play: suppose I&amp;rsquo;m the key White House staffer who could get this to the President, and you have me on the phone right now. Staffer: &amp;ldquo;OK, your letter was called to my attention and I get that you&amp;rsquo;re 23,000 Obamamaniac community organizers, and you want more progressive stuff in the Patriot reauth, and you&amp;rsquo;re about to go viral. Fine. I work 24&amp;times;7 for the President. You have 30 seconds to tell me what exactly you want him to do. That&amp;rsquo;s all the time I&amp;rsquo;ll get on this in the Oval.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;what i said: I want him to support HR 3845 and 3846 (along with the addition of equivalent protections to the Senate Bill), to work with AG Holder to provide the information about Section 215 not just to Congress but to the American public as well.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Mark: what we want is not simply acknowledgement of our concerns. what we want is that legislation changed.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Brandon: way framed, president gets letter, lieks it, compelled by movement, what he wants. Letter is intention getter, stage 2 of specific ask.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark: I strongly recommend it&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: my expeince in these power based negotiations, is it&amp;#39;s important to have a ask that frames the conversation going forwadr, drives the tmepo of what we&amp;#39;re expecting in a concrete timeframe&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jim: issue with ask as stated, askign for specific legislation that has to do with last two weeks. what will it be next week?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jim: worry that tying it to a specific piece&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: maybe bullet points are the key, specific legislation is the footnote after that.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jim: say what we want. restircitons on 215s, NSLs and the like, as was proposed in JUSTICE act and these as examples&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jim: maybe advantage of using the justice given that it&amp;#39;s an example.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: not do editing on the call. That&amp;#39;s direction it needs to move in. Find out who will do editing path to get there.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Brandon: ARL endorsed justice act, is great, but there are some thigns better in other proposals too&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Brnadon: look at CDT chart of proposals, cherry pick strongest. Describe in normal language. Footnote to act.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: CDT blog that shows house bill vs justice act&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;pointer to CDT blog: http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2009/11/16/a-handy-patriot-act-cheat-sheet/&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Brandon: think about priority, list in some order. NSLs got to be at the top. 215s. Lone wolf. Might erupt in unnecssary argument, but agree on top few. Transparency in the process.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: think lone wolf. don&amp;#39;t want to lose sneek and peak too.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;[Comment From Amy Ringenbach Amy Ringenbach: ] &lt;br&gt;Handy Chart Tracks Proposed Amendments to #PatriotAct - Wired.com http://bit.ly/34790D&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;top issues: NSLs, 215, lone wolf, sneak and peak, transparent process&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;material support aspect&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Brandon: material support concept. hasn&amp;#39;t been in most of bilsl so far. For Arab Americans high priority, gotten attention recently.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: fact that we haven&amp;#39;t thoguth about it shows lack of awareness on our part. Letter will be stronger if we mention that as well&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Brandon: Rush Holt is key on it, have legislative champion there&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: that&amp;#39;s really important&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: need to have reference for how people can find out more on each of these topics in place&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Amy: we planned to drop in judiciously attributions&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: links in the letter themselves, that&amp;#39;s great. If not, want to pear it with whatever site we point media/bloggers too.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;JOn: detailed legal artilces, where peopel can find out more on these issues.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: that woudl be valuable for everyone joining in midstream.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Amy: can identify it as a bullet item on main blog post list.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Korkie just joined us&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Chip: David Cole has been one of hte best historically. Deals extensively with mateiral support issue.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;Chip: please note the title of this book?&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Amy: as colleagues build bullet points, share with us attributiosn so we can cross post htem.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: know who is building the bullet points?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: talkign about via bullet points agreed, what we just went over, NSls, 215, lone wolf, sneek and peak, mateiral support, and a transparent process&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;bullet points: NSLs, 215, lone wolf, sneak and peak, material support, transparent process&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: feel like what we need to complement the letter is a bibliogrpay page. Almost like a complementary formatting, organized by these, key posts for each one.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: companion document living on the web that people can go to.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Harry: part of media/blogger resources page&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: steps to relaunch on open letter&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: minor rewrok to get bullet points, crisp up ask&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: finalize it. get it to BORDC so they can post it. From last call, discussing osme way where peopel can sign on by clicking a web page without signing for OFA, BORDC offered to host. A site we point people to to sign.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: Jessica Pieklo on Care2 post it on petition site. large and complmeentary audience.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: importnat to reach boht. People on Care2 not likey to be in our current audience.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: finalize on Friday. Get ready over weekend. Launch Monday evening, or during the day on Monday&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Amy: Afghanistan open letter being circulated&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Harry: Monday night better for me&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Amy: any time monday better for me&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Brnadon: intuitively seems mornign is better, build time over the day.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: very much shooting for that is tuesday. Monday is prime pumping, teusady is launch and event, with idea of getting thigns to spark tuesday&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Mark: need to be proactive in selected media. Someone if possible needs to call reporter at whatever newspaper and point them to look at such and such.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Amy: that&amp;#39;s why I&amp;#39;m on the team&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: brainstorming---key people, rpeoters, bloggers, etc. Who is contacting them in various ways&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: also want to thinka bout who we are priming the pump with, starting to talk to now, let them know that we are softlauching modnay with laucnh event on tuesday&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: leave it at Monday evening&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Amy: conflict on Monday in terms of competing news stories, is there will be HCR fallout on monday&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: we are coming in after that, bet we are making with teusday. points to doing it later in the day&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;Jon: do we want to create a new group on OFA?&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: monday night have it available on BORDC. Care2. We want people to sgin onto OFA by joinign the group.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: do we want to start a new group? Struck me that, if they say no, that&amp;#39;s an itnersting story. Compares and contrasts behavior during the campaign. If they say yes, we have a new group to measure &amp;#39;are more people interested now than then&amp;#39;.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Korkie: don&amp;#39;t think we need permission. Maybe new OFA&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark: you didn&amp;#39;t used to. But tha&amp;#39;ts a long time ago&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;shoudl consider losing people power in current group&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Mark: I put some stuff ont eh OFA GFR blog hoping that somebody would read it. 3 or 4 thingso n it a few months ago. I didn&amp;#39;t get a single response&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: yeah, it&amp;#39;s pretty dead&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Harry: it isfamliar though for people who used to go on it&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: hearing keep it there. ok&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: FB, convince people to join the fix the FISA group&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: what we found with our polls before ist here is a chunk of peoel more liely to act on FB than somethign that sends email&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: chunk more on twitter than emila&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: plenty of peopel liekly to act on email&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: need to appeal to all basically&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Chp: wouldn&amp;#39;t be acting on FB if they click link on FB&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: non-FB action though. Guess I don&amp;#39;t know how people can sign onto BORDC via FB&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Amy: natonal legal council does that all the time&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Korkie: I use FB for listing petitions i wnat people to sign&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: that leads to substantial falloff&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: FB is conceptually it&amp;#39;s own enviornemtn. when you ask to follow it outside that enviornemtn, less likely to&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: can start by pointing peple to BORDC&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jim: in FB posting, can push them towads external site. remind them that group exists&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: not sayign joining hte group is signing, asking them to do two thigns. Cuts chancs they do either&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: loss is particularly accute wehn it coms to millenials more likely to spend time in social netwroking enviornments&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;point poeple to something on FB, widget&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: intersting idea&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Harry: something like ask the president, widget that can go anywehre&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: if not for widget, hearing storng preference to point people to BORDC site&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: on twitter, lose 90% of people if trying to point them somewhere lese&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: more likely to RT than folow a link, much les foll and act&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: act.ly people can sgin by retweeting. completley within the RT, low overhead if using twitter client, natural thing to do&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: a lot of what we were doing in sept and oct was measuring our click through adn RT thorugh rates&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: statistically significant data set. Yeah, but hard to know. Published as social computing research. Extraodrinarily diverse data set.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: large enough tod raw strong conclusion when getting numbers like this. Also consistnet iwht what everyone else reports&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: been studied less, but pretty sure there are similar dynaimcs on FB as well&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: people see link on FB, almsot no one links to it. look at summary and picture, could comment or like something based on that&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: i&amp;#39;m inclined to do an act.ly petition and push people to BORDC.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: twitter you can do both&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Amy: RT beta now?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: good question, do we want to do RT old or new style&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Korkie: I hate new style&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: I do too&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Korkie on new rt&amp;#39;s: icon on twitter that automatically retweets. When it does, you can&amp;#39;t put a comment in,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: act.ly is petition system, can set up one directed by someone on twitter. gives you webpage to point people too, also have something oto embed inyoru blog. Poeple can sign on.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: Jim Gilliam set it up, intentionally designed to be nonpartisan.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: can see who signed on. Viral in that as people RT they wind up signing on&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: totally agree it isn&amp;#39;t either or kind of thing&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfbq9b2h_11gffk26gg&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: other aspect of hte laucnh on monday is blog and media&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: start with basic blog posts so we have those bases covered. Have a doc collecting these in.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;FYI: See the embedded link drive-to signup on the National Women&amp;#39;s Legal Center,&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?v=app_2344061033&amp;amp;ref=profile&amp;amp;id=100000049519574#/nationalwomenslawcenter - is the link, see the box below the SMS flag on the left&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;blog post, execerpt, point people to sign on, possibly giving some history etc.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Harry/Amy GFR blog&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;OFA blog: Mark&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Care2: Jessica&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;BORDC: Amy&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Pam&amp;#39;s house blend: Jon, cross post at seminal or ask Jason&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Amy taking on seminal&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: perhaps ask Ben Mazel&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark: i&amp;#39;m a huffington post reporter. In terms of making it a news story, if it&amp;#39;s later next week I coudl do something&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: if it catches, legitimate story for Tuesday or Weds&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: reality catcher blog, got to top on digg&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: somebody approach Marcy to see fi she&amp;#39;ll post on emptywheel&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Harry: i&amp;#39;ll email her&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Chip: amnesty international&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark: i&amp;#39;m in touchwt hi dawn from time to time&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Amy: i&amp;#39;ll put something up on DCCC&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: great starts on blog posts, continue, in google doc&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;google doc: http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfbq9b2h_11gffk26gg&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Chip: I don&amp;#39;t get OFA strategy. Not start new group for fragmenting purposes. why not point to BORDC from wtihin&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: that&amp;#39;s what I got. edited to clarify&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: when we list out how broad our coverage is, it&amp;#39;s impressive.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Media+Contact+List&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: great stuff. Need to coordinate&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: RT from GFR, other poeple RT, increased GFR visibility&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: look around for other good contact for tweetchat&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: let ACLU, EFF that we&amp;#39;re looking for content&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: ACLU of northern CA might have something&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;discuss twitvid idea, videos from webcam that goes immediatley into twitter form&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: interesting to see if you can get Marcy to get a twitvid.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: format, short intro about GFR. Open letter are sending.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Chip: I can be a resource on technical FISA issues. Substantive things that woudl be helpful to reinfore our leter. resfute myths that there ahve been no abuse. cluster of unitarye xecutive issues, inclduing links to 215, data mining, warrantles surveillance&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Chip: needed to get technical about FISA admendments act&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;Here is the new ACLU DotRights vid, posted today:&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;Our @ACLU_NorCal affiliate launches Demand Your @dotRights! Video: http://dotrights.org/education - Blog of Rights: http://bit.ly/arFMK&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Chip: depending on format, could do a 3-5 minute on each issue.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark: doens&amp;#39;t need to be that long even, as resource&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Chip: those were some of the thigns off the otp of my head. If you need aditional information off my side.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Chip: other elemnt is mission creep. 218, not up for renewal, blurred crimianl and foreign intelligence regime. effectively allowing the loewr than probable cause standard to infect normal criminal work.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Chip: partriot act power now being used more for domestic criminals than origianly terorrist aspect sold as&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;Ah, to be able to do a Vulcan mind meld right now. Yes, indeed.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: one interesting thing to ahve Julian talk about is the medai enviornmetn. Coverage or not&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: he has managed to make a big showing there&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Chip: unique platform. CATO can&amp;#39;t affiliate iwth other gorups or lobbying, but he can make the case that it&amp;#39;s nonpartisan issues. Crucial message need to be heard more braodly&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Chip: nonpartisan in engative way. Obama and sensenbrenner preachign same message.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;Remember too that these Twitvids could well be stand-alone drops-in for Democracy Now, Rachel, Keith. perhaps even Dylan.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: make sure to set up an emai or blog thread ahead of time to let people know waht quesitons you will fee epopel are. roughly how long to spend on each area.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: find out as we&amp;#39;re talking to tohers beforehand other topics we want to include&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;Jon, what&amp;#39;s the path to &amp;#39;You Stream&amp;quot;&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jim: I can help moderate&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jim: not for this one necessarily, but want to follow through on Ustream notion.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: do want moderators&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: trying to get patriot act hashtag to trend on twitter during tweetchat&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: trained about a dozen from privacy coaltion, hopefully some of them will be interested as well&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: chunk of this not just partisan, but information, so 501cs and orgnaizations themselves woudl feel safer about tweeting&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;what&amp;#39;s the initial blast?&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;And thinking that we&amp;#39;ll need to include both @GetFISARight and #patriotact, for tweetbacks here to the hub and trending the #patriotact..&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: feedback last time is we don&amp;#39;t have anything yet, presumptuous to plan press call&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: take things as they come&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: invite journalists to come to the tweetchat. More compelling&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;let&amp;#39;s plan on a press conference as we reach 5,000 signess..&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;we discussed this last week,, and thought we agreed on that scaling?&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: exciting, really impressive work getting here&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;for those with time, brainstomring media contacts&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;Question about tweeting the OPen Letter to MOC.. as of the 16th, it totalled 183.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jim: concenr about #patriotact tweets in chat room. If it trends and interweaving, don&amp;#39;t we end up positive feedback loop&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jim: if people want to watch it, let them watch somewhere else&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: if it goes so much, need another service like twazzup or twubbs.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon: want thingb uild up in the hour, and then go much more after when they are fired up&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Amy: Mark, Jim, I make template for blogs. standard ap langugae, customize it.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;Jumping off now, but I&amp;#39;ll check back with you. Again, thank you All of you. You are flat-out amazing.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: make GFR media account&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Harry: here is the media contact list&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Media+Contact+List&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;John Nichols: Harry (CC Chip)&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;Amy Goodman: do we have any contacts?&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;David Corn at mother jones -- need a news hook&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;Dan Froomkin&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;Martin Kaste, NPR -- Chip&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;I&amp;#39;m lurking here, guys, as I await this other conf call. I have two contacts at DN.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;what we need: a one-paragraph pitch. what&amp;#39;s innovative and newsworthy? the fact that people in obama&amp;#39;s site are once again reacting to him is one&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;the grassroots, cross-partisan alignment is newsworthy&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;(hi Amy)&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;the Patriot Act reauthorization debate is timely&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;Amy, will you have time to help on a very short media pitch&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;Bill Moyers: Chip&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;David Brancacio on PBS&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;Yes. I can do that.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;Harry: I like the idea of the focus on the NY Times&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;thanks!&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;Eric Lichtblau -- I can contact him&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;I&amp;#39;m assuming this is to be timed for Tussday morning, once we launch the Open Letter itself, correct?&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;actually something in the shorter term, that we can start sending to people saying &amp;quot;here&amp;#39;s where the story&amp;#39;s coming up, starty paying attention&amp;quot;&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;Jim Lehrer -- Chip will contact&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;Bob Woodward&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;Okay.. the press contacts you&amp;#39;re listing right now are some of the big guns. 1. let&amp;#39;s not reach too high, too fast. Agreed. This is grassroots build.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;Nat Hentoff&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;good point amy&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;And we need to plan to directly reach into big guns once we&amp;#39;ve reached the 5,000, 10,000 benchmarks, right?&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;(i just repeated it on the phone)&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;Other wise, it&amp;#39;ll be dismssed .. summarily.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;Trust me on this one, k, guys?&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;that said i&amp;#39;ve gotten very early coverage on some of these social network activism campaigns&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;Sarah Lai Stirland ... Jon to contact&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;You have? whoa..&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;:-)&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;Jon Ward from Washington Times -- agreed during askt the president that this wasn&amp;#39;t getting enough coverage.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;Reason magazine -- Julian writes for them&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;BTW.. curious FB handshake yesterday: Vincent Bugliosi requested that I become an FB friend. A contact, an asset we may be able to use down the road, in GFR context..&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;I&amp;#39;ll make a new table on the medai contact list with these names and that makes it easy to aggreage our press coverage&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;if we want people to come to the launch on Tuesday, we need to contact them on Monday&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;Mike Cross-Barnette at Baltimore Sun -- Mark&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;I have had, in the past, a reach into Jonathan Turley.. but it&amp;#39;s not a lock..&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;worth a try!&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;LATimes Steve Lopez.. he is an old friend.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;wired threat level&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;can we get Kevin to connect us to Olbermann&amp;#39;s producer?&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;harry: rachel maddow&amp;#39;s producer is on Twitter.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;And Mike Stark too.. He&amp;#39;s definitely on the same page as wel all are. (you may have seen his jaw-dropping &amp;#39;get&amp;#39; yesterday about Vitter.) And he has helped me in the past.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;ask Baratunde if he&amp;#39;ll do a post on it&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;great point on Mike Stark, Amy.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;Several friends write regularly on OpEd News, which is-- I grant you-- kinda like bird-cage liner.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;every bit helps&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;Amy, how well do you know Mike?&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;Who of us has a presence on Digby? CorrenteWire?&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;nobody as far as i know&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;And I have reaches into progressive sites in MI, AR, AK, LA, FL, UT..&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;I seem to recall that Jim had or has Digby access?&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;not as far as i know. Harry says she&amp;#39;s good at responding to emails.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;openleft: Harry to contact Chris&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;Momocrats: Jon to contact Cynthia&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;jon to contact PunditMom&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;I met Mike in August. He covered that huge health care town hall in Philly, where with just a day and half lead time, my networking brought out 1000 people filled the place and it made wall to wall news.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;HUFFpo&amp;#39;s Denise Denise covered it and said what my team did should be repeated across the country. Mike was stunned and helped me drive the story nationally.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;clay shirky, micah sifry, tvr folks in general: jon&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;cool, i&amp;#39;ll cc you on my email to him&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;DREAM Activists: Jon&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;Ha~ he was so jazzed he offerred to drive me to Netroots in Pittsburgh to explain how I did it.&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/denise-dennis/health-care-opponents-out_b_259039.html&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;In preparation for the town meeting, MoveOn and various local groups that support health care reform contacted their network of members and encouraged them to turn-out for the event and outnumber tea-baggers and others who might try to prevent citizens from asking questions. The result was so successful it could serve as a model for town meetings across the country.&amp;quot;&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;HarryWaisbren: &lt;br&gt;Jon: 7 pm EST call monday. Don&amp;#39;t separate it as an event, just something for us to now about as a fall back&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;very cool, Amy!&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;we wound up the phone call&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;Amy Ringenbach: &lt;br&gt;(This other conf call is ending.. I&amp;#39;ll call into you guys in a jiff..)&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;jdp23: &lt;br&gt;too late!&lt;br&gt;&lt;hr size=&quot;1&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>