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12:42
Welcome to our latest Patriot Act & FISA reform organizing call and online chat!
Monday November 2, 200912:42
12:48
Twitter
GetFISARight:
Reminder--our #patriotact & FISA call begins at 1 pm EST/ 4 pm PST. Come join us: http://bit.ly/120ubS
Monday November 2, 200912:48GetFISARight
12:50
HarryWaisbren:
As you see above, we are integrating Twitter into this chat as a demonstration of how we can further utilize different mediums moving forward. We will discuss this during the "tweetchat" portion of the call.
Monday November 2, 200912:50HarryWaisbren
12:50
Twitter
GetFISARight:
mini-update on the #patriotact legislative situation: multiple bills in the house and in the senate. http://is.gd/4LnGQ
Monday November 2, 200912:50GetFISARight
12:53
November 2 call chat log - Get FISA Right
[Comment From jon jon:]
hi there Harry. here's the mini-update on the legislative situation:

- HJC scheduled to mark up HR 3845 (Conyers/Nadler/Scott) this Wednesday, 12:30 PM Eastern.
- Reyes, Hastings, and Rupperburger have introdced HR 3969 into HPSCI; it supposedly largely mirrors the SJC bill but may be weaker in some areas.
In the Senate, in addition to the amended Leahy/Feinstein SJC bill (S. 1692), there’s also a Sessions/Lieberman/Bond (S. 2236) bill that would reauthorize with no additional safeguards. boo. floor schedule still unclear.
Monday November 2, 200912:53jon
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November 2 call chat log - Get FISA Right
jon:
brandon from ARL, Shahid from BORDC
Monday November 2, 20091:02jon
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jon:
soren, harry, jon
Monday November 2, 20091:02jon
1:03
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: feel free to have discussion in the chat room. Great way to communicate in parallel
Monday November 2, 20091:03HarryWaisbren
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jon:
Amy ...
Monday November 2, 20091:03jon
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HarryWaisbren:
Jon: one idea that has gotten a lot of momentum is having regular chats on twitter and invovling those not on twitter through this kind of cover it live chat.

Jon: great way for otureach to libertarian activists as well.
Monday November 2, 20091:04HarryWaisbren
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HarryWaisbren:
Jon: Also pushing forward on outreach and Amy's point of telling stories. Connected wiht BORDC
Monday November 2, 20091:05HarryWaisbren
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HarryWaisbren:
Shahid: two rounds of this, might be familiar with earlier round. Series of local resolutions, version 2.0 wihtin last couple weeks is a series of binding, enforcable ordinances that would not only experss a certain view for federal policy but actual shift hte legal regime constraning local law encofrcement and domestic efforts....

Monday November 2, 20091:05HarryWaisbren
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HarryWaisbren:
Shahid: way to think of it, is opporutnity for local legislators to peel back local partiicpaiton in federal surveilance isues. Doesn't do anything to curb federal power
Monday November 2, 20091:06HarryWaisbren
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HarryWaisbren:
Jon: real opportunity is coupling online activism with in person activism. Starting locally on that, the 2001 and 2002, version 1 was very successful.

Jon: building on successes, fusing with this cross fertilization.

Shahid: one thing to back it up is while the ordinances don't limit federal authorities, what can limit is the conversation, getting back in to the public spotlight
Monday November 2, 20091:07HarryWaisbren
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HarryWaisbren:
Shahid: between healthcare and the economy and mlutplke crises sucking the air out of hte room.

Shahid: drive the national conversatiosn around the issues.
Monday November 2, 20091:07HarryWaisbren
1:07
HarryWaisbren:
Shahid: ordinances are avialalbe now and otureach to anyone who would participate in them
Monday November 2, 20091:07HarryWaisbren
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HarryWaisbren:
Shahid: anyone on this call or in the GFR network or any audience of bloggers who post the ordinances/inclined to engage.

Shahid: getting legislation through city council. Unaffiliated individuals acting indpendently can work with us. Standing by with resources.

Shahid: survielance ordinances hasn't gotten too much attention. Been on a few blogs, like David Swanson's.
Monday November 2, 20091:08HarryWaisbren
1:09
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: from GFR's persepctive, last summer we did local work for platform committee eitngs. 6-8 local meetings. Infrastrucutre in place, see if poeple are still enthusiastic about it.
Monday November 2, 20091:09HarryWaisbren
1:09
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: update on legislative status.

Jon: markup scheduled for htis wedsneday. Same time, new bill introduced into house committee on intelligence. Much weaker.

Jon: supposedly mirrors bill that went through SJC, but Brnadon is saying library protections are absent
Monday November 2, 20091:09HarryWaisbren
1:10
HarryWaisbren:
Brandon: in the senate a bit about libraries stayed in. Cut back from waht Leahy introduced. In Reyes bill it's not.

Brandon: sort of a canary int he mind. Might be even worse than SJC
Monday November 2, 20091:10HarryWaisbren
1:10
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: Sessions in the senate along with Lieberman and Bond introduced a billf or straight reauthroization, no additional protections
Monday November 2, 20091:10HarryWaisbren
1:11
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: still no updated word about hearing, still not clear when the senate floor action will be taken
Monday November 2, 20091:11HarryWaisbren
1:11
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: quesitons or other thoughts on legislative issues?
Monday November 2, 20091:11HarryWaisbren
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HarryWaisbren:
Amy: tomorrow David Swanson will be in Philadelphia area discussing new book. have civil libertairna buds there. Will discuss iwth them to how we can buttonhold politicians to get on board
Monday November 2, 20091:11HarryWaisbren
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HarryWaisbren:
Jon: looking at all this going on, we still have a ways to go.

Jon: I don't know what the overalll civil liberties activism strategy for all of this is. Still at stage where we are trying ot amke as storng a showing as we can in thep lace we are strongest, which is HJC.
Monday November 2, 20091:12HarryWaisbren
1:12
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: shifting to section on strategy, before, during, after the markup.

Jon: roughly, do what we can between now and weds. Not sure it'll be a heck of a lot. Important for baiss going forward.

Monday November 2, 20091:12HarryWaisbren
1:12
HarryWaisbren:
Korkie has joined us, ehy Korkie
Monday November 2, 20091:12HarryWaisbren
1:13
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: for Weds, doing an online chat to discuss what is happening and coordinate activism during

Jon: partiuclarly if markup spills ove from one session, lays groundwork for the next battle
Monday November 2, 20091:13HarryWaisbren
1:13
HarryWaisbren:
Jim Burrows has also just joined us
Monday November 2, 20091:13HarryWaisbren
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HarryWaisbren:
Jon: once we know about HJC and have a little more understanding of the dueling bills in boht chambers then we'll be able to chart a course going forward.

Jon: not going to hapen until at least after the house markup
Monday November 2, 20091:13HarryWaisbren
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HarryWaisbren:
Jon: with social network campiangs in general, rely on network effects. To the extent we can keep kpeope iengaged and bringing new people in, get stronger

Jon: rpoblem is burnout, other obligations. Poeple spending hcunk orgnaizing it, others helping out in free time available.

Jon: need to continue to find poeple to drive organizing and others to help out in minal amount of time
Monday November 2, 20091:14HarryWaisbren
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HarryWaisbren:
Jon: looking longer term, pulling groups togehter ot talk about local ordinances. Even first discussion meetigns for them is a chance to talk about this activism at the federal level as well.

Jon: most interested int he one will be intersted in the other.

Jon: as we look at planing going forwad, if there is one place that is where the leverage hasn't been utilized effectively it's this offline/online juncture
Monday November 2, 20091:15HarryWaisbren
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jon:
Harry: Jon, you made a great point about the imortance of Wednesday. we're transitioning for the longer-term and digging in our heels. let's focus on something bigger for the House hearing
Monday November 2, 20091:16jon
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jon:
Harry: with the SJC hearing, it was mostly discussion; what we'll be adding is for people to get active during the call -- we'll be doing a lot more of this going forward
Monday November 2, 20091:17jon
1:17
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: quick informal poll. Hearing is 12:30 est, how many poeple will have at least a few mintues to drop by at some point during the hearing?

Jon: last time it was things like, Specter gave a particularly impassioned speech and we all sent a thank you to him
Monday November 2, 20091:17HarryWaisbren
1:18
HarryWaisbren:
Korkie: couple hours

Jim: couple hours

Amy: couple hours

Harry: most of it
Monday November 2, 20091:18HarryWaisbren
1:18
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: probably get a little time of chunk of people. If we can get 30ish people to be taking action, 50-100 would be better, but even 30 is very noticeable

Jon: look at other things we can do at FB

Jon: it is webcast
Monday November 2, 20091:18HarryWaisbren
1:19
HarryWaisbren:
We will definitely have all of the available informatio in a concise blog post to facilitate spreading it
Monday November 2, 20091:19HarryWaisbren
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HarryWaisbren:
Amy: is everyone aware about the twitter lists?

Amy: go up to twitter, click on following, following a list, call it whatever you watn. Go through the poeple you are following, sepcficially for FISA, add them to that list.

Amy: Can make it public or private

Korkie: I'm on twitter now and I'm trying to figure out what it was. Mine says 12 listed.
Monday November 2, 20091:20HarryWaisbren
1:21
HarryWaisbren:
Amy: will see drop with little lines, fly through the poeple you are following and siolate them to a new list. Keep in touch iwth them.

Jon: GFR should come up with a list. Everyoen can jsut follow that, rather than people makign their own
Monday November 2, 20091:21HarryWaisbren
1:22
HarryWaisbren:
I'll have time to help out iwth the lists, but would appreciate any help!

Jon: if you want to help, we'll send you the twitter passwords. Great idea Amy!
Monday November 2, 20091:22HarryWaisbren
1:23
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: I was on the Privacy Coalition call. Briefly went over web campaign. Lot of interest in finidng out more and helping. Doing trainings.

Jon: most of these gorups haven't done much on social netwroks in general. Will try to do our first coupel fo quick sessions on twitter tomorrow, with idea that if we get people invovled tomorrow can get them involved in the Weds hearing

Jon: will be senidng out events on FB and emial lists when it's scheduled
Monday November 2, 20091:23HarryWaisbren
1:23
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: 10 am PST, 5:30 PM PST
Monday November 2, 20091:23HarryWaisbren
1:23
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: probably just a half hour long
Monday November 2, 20091:23HarryWaisbren
1:24
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: that takes us through the markup, after that, an idea I want to return to is Amy's point about getting people to tell storeis about how they have been impacted byt he Patriot Act.

Jon: if we are going ot change the conversation.
Monday November 2, 20091:24HarryWaisbren
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HarryWaisbren:
Jon: example I was thinking of, there is a blog post floating around of a former police officer who was just going thorugh airport secondary seradescribing first hand expeirence of why this is an ineffective search.

Jon: conveys thing at a much different level than our abstraction.

Jon: spend a few minutes brainstomring, how do we make more progress
Monday November 2, 20091:25HarryWaisbren
1:26
HarryWaisbren:
Shahid: one of the big problems iwth the patriot act in partiuclar with NSL and gag orders, preclude poeple from telling stoires.

Shahid: might be challenigng, but going more generally to frame activism and opportunities, mgiht think about context of domestic intellignece generally. Sweeps in much more.
Monday November 2, 20091:26HarryWaisbren
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HarryWaisbren:
Jon: ACLU did confirm that because fo gag orders they are having a hard time
Monday November 2, 20091:26HarryWaisbren
1:28
HarryWaisbren:
Amy: I'm a little concerened about the gag orders. What gauntlet do we ahve to go through?

Shahdi: the gag ordres were held in a circuit court to be unconsittutional. NSL letters from disclsoing to third parties. Which is to say there was a big outcry about a librarian who had been constricted, well before reauthorization debate ame up, American Library Association expressed concenrs. Internet services providers too.

Shahid: section 215 is different too, in context of gag orders precluded peopel from talkkgni about it too
Monday November 2, 20091:28HarryWaisbren
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HarryWaisbren:
Shahid: one of hte federal circuits has ruled it's unconcistutional, but it persists. Amognst the JSUTICE act that was thrown under the bus.

Shahid: I think it was the 1st circuit, but not positive
Monday November 2, 20091:28HarryWaisbren
1:28
HarryWaisbren:
Amy: if that's a gauntlet we have to get around, we will ahve to do querires privately
Monday November 2, 20091:28HarryWaisbren
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HarryWaisbren:
Jon: one thing to point out is that it applies to national secuirt letters and 215. Are other patriot act related issues. It's a gauntlet no one has succeeded of getting aorudn so far.
Monday November 2, 20091:29HarryWaisbren
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HarryWaisbren:
Shahdi: engaging personal networks are important.

Shahid: report I wrote about interrogations was years work of shaking trees. Chasing down small number of opeople.

Shahid: 30 stories, 10-15 interrorgatio, others seraches.
Monday November 2, 20091:29HarryWaisbren
1:29
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: send a link, that'd be great to send out to people
Monday November 2, 20091:29HarryWaisbren
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HarryWaisbren:
Soren: I've asked HJC for some advice about what we should include in our campaign to contact htem directly. haven't heard back yet, hoepfully enough to see the poeple who have those gag orders, aproach them on this issu,e hopefully they take this seriously
Monday November 2, 20091:30HarryWaisbren
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HarryWaisbren:
Brandon: as I udnrestand it, these gag orders don't allow a recipiient to speak to their congresspeorson. That's one of hte argumetns we've used when tlakign to Reps, their constiutents can't come to them and say they have received one of these orders. Only one they can tell is thier atttonrey.
Monday November 2, 20091:31HarryWaisbren
1:31
HarryWaisbren:
Amy: Mandy is connected ot ACLU, right?

Jon: yeah

Amy: can she give us guidance, I can chekc with my own ACLU people.

Jon: great usggestion
Monday November 2, 20091:31HarryWaisbren
1:31
HarryWaisbren:
Amy: we want to get the storeis out, but if it jeopardizes the people who share htem
Monday November 2, 20091:31HarryWaisbren
1:32
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: importance about how this will be our personal networks.

Rebecca: if you have a specific quesiton that you want to be answered yb Michell,e our lobbyist, I'd be happy to forward it along

gasca@aclunv.org
Monday November 2, 20091:32HarryWaisbren
1:33
HarryWaisbren:
Rebecca: sorry for being a silent partner. Really appreciative of what you ahve been doing. Just gotten into this work a few months ago, trying to drum up work. Reid hasn't been vocal on this.

Jon: reassuring Nevada firends that we will soon be beating up on Reid
Monday November 2, 20091:33HarryWaisbren
1:34
HarryWaisbren:
Rebecca: it's up to each affiliate where they concentrate their time. Oviously we are all strapped for resources, but hte state strateigst orm our legislative offices have irect contact.

Rebecca: they can always put a call out and say hey here's informaiton. Certainly have been, received updtaes yesteady

Rebecca: up to indiivudla affiliiate about how to partenr with Washingotn office.

Rebecca: me for example we hav a newsletter coming out in probably two weeks. Won't be big, but will ahve patirot act issue in it, will direct membership to our website.

Rebecca: been tweeting/FBing in last few months than we ever have before. Dont' ahve a large following, but I know some poeple have reacted well, seen the info and acted upon it
Monday November 2, 20091:34HarryWaisbren
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HarryWaisbren:
Rebecca: also online on our natioanl website, have a enw site going live today. Not sure where it's goign to be, but it should be a little more eaisly navigatble for peopel

Rebecca: can find out where the aciton alert is for people, can have it send to congressmen to reform patriot act. Always an option. Can publish that link widely, it's ap ublic website, epopel can fill in info and have it automatically forared
Monday November 2, 20091:35HarryWaisbren
1:35
HarryWaisbren:
Rebecca: whoever sends me the email, Michelle richardson, our lobbyist will respond
Monday November 2, 20091:35HarryWaisbren
1:36
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: one thing I should mention, when I was talking about others stepping forward to take the lead in putting itme in, I will ahve to be largely bowing out of things for the next couple months.

Jon: starting company, will be consumign my time. Noticiably smaller role going hahead.

Jon: Harry's taking organizing of these online calls. To the extent that others have time to help, that'd be great. All kinds of tasks we can use help with
Monday November 2, 20091:36HarryWaisbren
1:37
HarryWaisbren:
Amy: I assume you will be poking up on FDL?

Jon: I am probably not going to be doing a lot of blogging. That's the more time consumign aspect. Will be relaying tweets, showing up on phon calls, to the extnet I have time I"ll be posting
Monday November 2, 20091:37HarryWaisbren
1:39
HarryWaisbren:
Rebecca: I just had a quick question about the prioritization of hte tweet line. If we start following eachother and put eachother on a separate list, does that mkae it all rivate?

Jon: no, it's independent of public or private.
Monday November 2, 20091:39HarryWaisbren
1:39
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: if you make the list private, that means the list membership is private
Monday November 2, 20091:39HarryWaisbren
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November 2 call chat log - Get FISA Right
jon:
Harry describing Tweetchats ... similar to this organization, also incorporating more people on Twitter. you can enable tweets from individual people or hashtags getting incorporated into the chat log
Monday November 2, 20091:40jon
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jon:
the point is to make it hte central place for people to go not only for news on the hearing, but also for waht they can do about it. lots of potential for flash actions if we can create a hug
Monday November 2, 20091:41jon
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jon:
it's also a great place to reach out to more diverse constituencies -- ideologically and demographically. we've talked a lot about libertarians; it's been tough so far ... on Twitter, we can easily engage people with low time cost
Monday November 2, 20091:42jon
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jon:
again, emphasizing the diversity aspect -- so many people outside of the main stream of activism. as a student activist, i'm one -- i was completely disengaged. twitter can dramatically increase our potential.
Monday November 2, 20091:42jon
1:44
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: following that, bringing someone in like Shahid or Michelle, Kevin Bankston, domain experts.

Jon: a couple of really effective chats, one is journ chats, monday evenings. Have 100ish people going on simtuanleously.

Jon: my borhter moderate kidlit chats. Surprising, but get mullptke conversations simultaneously in this medium. Helps build connections and broaden the networks.

Jon: important thing of using the cover it live chatrom like we are here, people not using twitter can partiicpat,e makies it much more inclusive
Monday November 2, 20091:44HarryWaisbren
1:44
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: thoughts about that? who we can try to get as people?
Monday November 2, 20091:44HarryWaisbren
1:45
HarryWaisbren:
Jim: for weds, if we are going to be tweeting out, are there conservative libertiaran hashtags that we hsould use to send out invitaitons to come to our hashtag?

Jon: it's a great point. The key hashtags for this are #patriotact, the progressive hashtags at #p2, #topprog, #rebelleft. conservative tags are #tcot, #sgp (smart girl politics), #tlot, and #libertarian.

Jon: noticed that alot of gorups like campaign for liberty, jduge napolitiano, they dont' seem to be using a lot of hashtgas in partiuclar. Dont' know how rich the tag community is
Monday November 2, 20091:45HarryWaisbren
1:46
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: someone have time to do some scanning for this. Easiest thign to do is start with our patriot act twazzup page, see who is tweeting, whta tags they are using.

Jon: explore form there, see what else we can do

Rebecca: I'd be happy to do that

Jon: great, we'll follow up by email. Great suggestion, would be veyr ehlpful
Monday November 2, 20091:46HarryWaisbren
1:46
HarryWaisbren:
Amy: looking at page. wondering which of htese should we focus on? I use primarily #p2
Monday November 2, 20091:46HarryWaisbren
1:47
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: #p2 is a good place to reach progressives, gets retweeted to other tags. #tcot similarly on conservative side. Not sure about #tlot.

Jon: also the nonpartisan tags, like #privacy
Monday November 2, 20091:47HarryWaisbren
1:48
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: Julian Snachez often tweets out to libertiarns

Jim: not that we tag everythign with these, but in advance of thsee we send out tweets iwth vairous tags you mentioned, saying that we are going to be livetweeting on this and give tag we will be using
Monday November 2, 20091:48HarryWaisbren
1:48
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: also good poitn about scheduling. Should try to do a round of this tueday night and another round weds morning

Jon: twitter is cyclical in tersm fo times. Oftne best to talk about it at diferent times 8 hours apaprt, reach difeernet people

Jon: keep eyes open fro tweets from GFR tomorrow night and weds morning
Monday November 2, 20091:48HarryWaisbren
1:48
HarryWaisbren:
Jim: something like thse invitations, another good time ot do it is 24 hours before for those typically on at that hour
Monday November 2, 20091:48HarryWaisbren
1:49
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: ok, have a schedule. One path out at 12:30 PM est, next 8 hours later, and then a third batch out as early as possible weds morning
Monday November 2, 20091:49HarryWaisbren
1:49
Twitter
korkie:
rt @GetFISARight mini-update on the #patriotact legislative situation: multiple bills in the house and n the senate. http://is.gd/4LnGQ #p2
Monday November 2, 20091:49korkie
1:49
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: as w do this, we'll get in the habit of doing it regularly

Jon: somethign I hope others realize, si I have sutudies social entwork activism a lot, and we are on the cutting edge here. It's great we are ocmign up with these procedures, becasue we have an organizing advantage. So rare, and we should take full advantage of it
Monday November 2, 20091:49HarryWaisbren
1:50
Twitter
korkie:
rt @alapoet I’m not a terrorist. Stop spying on Americans! Fix the #patriotact. http://act.ly/Rf Pls RT #p2 #privacy #rebelleft
Monday November 2, 20091:50korkie
1:51
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: other topic on our list is outreach, media and blogosphere.

Jon: none of us undrestand why our allies like MSNBC aren't yet covering it. Well, we do, "where's the story".

Jon: really frustrating that prog bloggers aren't citing actiivst information. Might include phone numbers, but not in genral linking off to ACLU or other email contact cmapaigns. Not focusing on social network activists.

Jon: one thing that's tempitng is to start an act.ly petition and start targetting media folk a well
Monday November 2, 20091:51HarryWaisbren
1:52
Twitter
korkie:
RT @GetFISARight: RT @ginacooper: Patriot Act & FISA reform blogger resources page http://tinyurl.com/yfepmj4 #patriotact #p2
Monday November 2, 20091:52korkie
1:52
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: simple message, like say to Greenwald and to Marcy Wheelr, "please let people know about our online actiivsm during the amrkup
Monday November 2, 20091:52HarryWaisbren
1:52
HarryWaisbren:
Amy: you know Jane and eveyrone at FDL are so focused on healthcare reform now
Monday November 2, 20091:52HarryWaisbren
1:53
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: it's a good point, FDL has been very supportive. In general, most of prog blogosphere is focused on healthcare right now.

Jim: oen point about Glenn, he hasn't plugged in with us. That's one that might be worht pushign on a little
Monday November 2, 20091:53HarryWaisbren
1:54
HarryWaisbren:
Amy: digby?

Jon: she's great too
Monday November 2, 20091:54HarryWaisbren
1:56
HarryWaisbren:
Jim: going through the semianl at FDL might offer oportunity to illustrate that

Harry: we put tweet chat info in blogger resource page, embed on their post

Jon: marcy will probably be live blogging. Ask her to embed our chat in the page.

Jon: looking btw semianl and marcy's stuff on emptywheel, both Json and I have noticed it's gotten no traction on the seminal

Jon: Marcy's posts are getting decent, not exceptionsal traction int eh comments. Not like it was at height of FISA things

Jon: she is just so much more highly visible

Harry: what about Juilan

Korkie: and Pam's site
Monday November 2, 20091:56HarryWaisbren
1:56
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: i'll ask Pam about that too

Jon: I like this. Use this Wds are proof point. Reach out beforehand, Marcy, Julian, Pam, (if Marcy can't do it we'll get something on the seminal)
Monday November 2, 20091:56HarryWaisbren
1:56
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: other topics people have?
Monday November 2, 20091:56HarryWaisbren
1:57
Twitter
korkie:
RT @GetFISARight Marcy Wheeler discusses “investigations into people who have nothing to do with terrorism” http://bit.ly/2JD4uc #patriotact
Monday November 2, 20091:57korkie
1:57
HarryWaisbren:
Amy: one question? Keep tabs on the lcoa lordinances

Shahid: bill of rights defense committee. BORDC.org
Monday November 2, 20091:57HarryWaisbren
1:57
Twitter
AAIUSA:
is urging our Representatives to support security AND freedom: Support HR 3845 http://bit.ly/3vOTHZ #patriotact
Monday November 2, 20091:57AAIUSA
1:58
HarryWaisbren:
Shahid@BORD.org

Shahid: this is my first time on this call, and I"m stunend by how much you have going. I'm looking forward to workign with you as well!

Amy: I am connected across Pennsylvania. My emial is bleuz00m@gmail.com
Monday November 2, 20091:58HarryWaisbren
1:58
Twitter
AAIUSA:
@GetFISARight pls RT urging our Representatives to support Security AND freedom: Support H.R. 3845 http://bit.ly/AULQw 7 #patriotact
Monday November 2, 20091:58AAIUSA
1:58
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: from our perspective, it's so gratifiying, Brandon, the two of you, Korkie, seeing people show up, this steady stream of new activists invovled in all of htis and the connectiosn we are making, it's just really exciting
Monday November 2, 20091:58HarryWaisbren
1:59
HarryWaisbren:
Mark is here too, hi Mark
Monday November 2, 20091:59HarryWaisbren
2:00
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: another important factor, last week we had Mark and Derrick, strong OFA presence

Jon: Jessica, Hegemommy at Care2, Tracy there too, getting significnat presences on various social networks. Looking at long term battle, huge basis going forward.

Jon: next week, send out a poll for best time of hte call. Move it back to Tuesday. Think that will also be a good time to return ot the open letter discussion.

Jon: good synergy with tweet chats and local ordinances as well.
Monday November 2, 20092:00HarryWaisbren
2:00
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: quickly go over aciton items
Monday November 2, 20092:00HarryWaisbren
2:00
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jon:
capturing action items:
Monday November 2, 20092:00jon
2:01
Twitter
AAIUSA:
is urging our Representatives to support security AND freedom: Support HR 3845 http://bit.ly/eMIis #patriotact
Monday November 2, 20092:01AAIUSA
2:02
Twitter
AAIUSA:
@GetFISARight pls RT THIS ONE! Urge your Representatives to support security AND freedom: Support HR 3845 http://bit.ly/eMIis #patriotact
Monday November 2, 20092:02AAIUSA
2:02
HarryWaisbren:
Amy: communicaitng with Shahid and Rebecca. Chatting this up at Weds event with David Swanson crowd. tocuhing base again with other contacts.

Harry: training tomorrow, summary blog post, various efforts to promote tweet chats
Monday November 2, 20092:02HarryWaisbren
2:02
HarryWaisbren:
Shahid: sending report on border profiling

Shahid: other thign we shoudl flag that we are doing, is aciton alet int he way of hte markup. Flagging to other poeple on our list what happens on Weds
Monday November 2, 20092:02HarryWaisbren
2:02
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: we shoudl touch base via email at least to see if there are ways to have that reinforce other things going on
Monday November 2, 20092:02HarryWaisbren
2:03
HarryWaisbren:
Various people committing time during hte markup
Monday November 2, 20092:03HarryWaisbren
2:04
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: one thign falling through cracks is touching base with chat room for Weds

Jon: I can touch base with Pam.

Harry: I'll be putting it on blogger resource page, refine how easy it is to do

Harry: I'll set up FB event page for Weds
Monday November 2, 20092:04HarryWaisbren
2:04
HarryWaisbren:
I'll also be helpign iwth the lists
Monday November 2, 20092:04HarryWaisbren
2:05
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: rather than doing a separtae post on the tweetchats, do one on Weds markup.

Jon: could be a way to save time, come back after the markup and do that
Monday November 2, 20092:05HarryWaisbren
2:05
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jon:
Amy to follow up with Rebecca, touch base with Shahid, chat w/ David Swanson + recruit for Wednesday event, touch base w/ Sestak
Rebecca to do research on hashtags
Shahid to send report on border profiling, stand by for interest on ordinances
Harry: posting notes, more details about tweetchat + recruiting, add chat info to blogger resource page, FB event on Wednesday, Twitter list
Jon: training tomorrow
various people: time during markup
chat room for Wednesday: Jon to touch base w/ Pam, Marcy, Julian
Monday November 2, 20092:05jon
2:05
HarryWaisbren:
If someone wants to take on FB event page that would help, wont' take long

Jon: ok, send mail out for that
Monday November 2, 20092:05HarryWaisbren
2:06
HarryWaisbren:
Great call everyone!
Monday November 2, 20092:06HarryWaisbren
2:06
November 2 call chat log - Get FISA Right
jon:
great call indeed!



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