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11:39
HarryWaisbren:
Hi everyone, hope all of your Thanksgivings went wonderfully!
Tuesday December 1, 200911:39HarryWaisbren
11:42
Jim Burrows:
Hi, Harry
Tuesday December 1, 200911:42Jim Burrows
11:42
HarryWaisbren:
One thing we should try to do during the call is for anyone on Twitter to send out some (or all of) our suggested tweets to further promote the open letter:

Ask @BarackObama to support #patriotact reform! http://act.ly/1fp Please RT You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the #patriotact at @BORDC: http://bit.ly/8Pzd4o You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the #patriotact at @Change: http://bit.ly/7T02BS You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the #patriotact at @care2: http://bit.ly/7ctiyd
Tuesday December 1, 200911:42HarryWaisbren
11:50
HarryWaisbren:
Hello to you too Jim!

Another thing of note is that currently, our combined statistics of signatures for our open letter are 617.

It was steadily rising following the tweetchat but fell off the map during the Thanksgiving break. We need to jumpstart it once again to really make it go viral, and should be able to with the right strategy.
Tuesday December 1, 200911:50HarryWaisbren
12:02
HarryWaisbren:
Mark, Jim, Amy, Korkie on the call
Tuesday December 1, 200912:02HarryWaisbren
12:04
HarryWaisbren:
  1. Intro, goal, agenda check. (5 min)
  2. Update on legislative status (5 min)
  3. Outreach and media planning (10-20 min)
  4. Tweetchat discussion (10-15 min)
    1. Potential Tweetchat Thursday during Cato Patriot Act event
  5. Action items and next steps (5 min)
Tuesday December 1, 200912:04HarryWaisbren
12:06
HarryWaisbren:
Legislative check---Shahid mentioned in tweetchat that can could be kicked down the road. State of Union coming up.
Tuesday December 1, 200912:06HarryWaisbren
12:07
HarryWaisbren:
Amy: tweeting legislators with tweetags
Tuesday December 1, 200912:07HarryWaisbren
12:08
HarryWaisbren:
Here is our statistics page again: http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Statistics
Tuesday December 1, 200912:08HarryWaisbren
12:14
HarryWaisbren:
Mark: I'd help out but I'm not a "twit".

Korkie: I'm on twitter, can help if you show me

Harry: Twitter is easy to teach. Can help in many other ways, email, phone etc. during the "tweetchat".
Tuesday December 1, 200912:14HarryWaisbren
12:16
HarryWaisbren:
Mark: send me the links and I'll be there
Tuesday December 1, 200912:16HarryWaisbren
12:17
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[Comment From korkie korkie:]
once you are on twitter mark, we can all follow you ...
Tuesday December 1, 200912:17korkie
12:18
HarryWaisbren:
tweetchat this thursday? Different than contacting media/legislator tweetchat
Tuesday December 1, 200912:18HarryWaisbren
12:18
HarryWaisbren:
Jim: cover Cato event like other hearings
Tuesday December 1, 200912:18HarryWaisbren
12:19
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[Comment From Jim Babka Jim Babka:]
Sorry, I'm late.
Tuesday December 1, 200912:19Jim Babka
12:20
HarryWaisbren:
Jim B: interseted in tweetchats, seeing how they go
Tuesday December 1, 200912:20HarryWaisbren
12:21
HarryWaisbren:
Mark: I plan to observe the Cato forum, not sure if by Thrusday there is much I can do

Harry: if you can type in chat room, we can tweet

Mark: sure
Tuesday December 1, 200912:21HarryWaisbren
12:22
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Jim Babka:
Is the signing period for the open letter still open?
Tuesday December 1, 200912:22Jim Babka
12:23
Jim Burrows:
Yes Jim
Tuesday December 1, 200912:23Jim Burrows
12:23
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korkie:
yes Jim B
Tuesday December 1, 200912:23korkie
12:23
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Jim Babka:
How does one sign?
Tuesday December 1, 200912:23Jim Babka
12:23
HarryWaisbren:
Yes it is Jim, here are the various ways you can sign in the links:

Ask @BarackObama to support #patriotact reform! http://act.ly/1fp Please RT You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the #patriotact at @BORDC: http://bit.ly/8Pzd4o You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the #patriotact at @Change: http://bit.ly/7T02BS You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the #patriotact at @care2: http://bit.ly/7ctiyd
Tuesday December 1, 200912:23HarryWaisbren
12:24
Jim Burrows:
Via any of the four ways listed above.
Tuesday December 1, 200912:24Jim Burrows
12:24
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korkie:
What time???
Tuesday December 1, 200912:24korkie
12:24
HarryWaisbren:
Cato event 4pm EST: http://www.cato.org/event.php?eventid=6792
Tuesday December 1, 200912:24HarryWaisbren
12:24
Jim Burrows:
CATO is 4:00 on Thursday, eastern
Tuesday December 1, 200912:24Jim Burrows
12:26
HarryWaisbren:
Tweetchat for media/legislator time?

Amy: i'm available Friday, be there Thursday

Jim: hard time commiting to different time.

Tuesday December 1, 200912:26HarryWaisbren
12:26
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korkie:
I'm pretty flexible on time...
Tuesday December 1, 200912:26korkie
12:26
Twitter
JimBabka:
You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the #patriotact at @BORDC: http://bit.ly/8Pzd4o
Tuesday December 1, 200912:26JimBabka
12:27
HarryWaisbren:
Thanks Jim for tweeting, and for anyone else, please tweet our now (or after the call).

Tweets to Rt again:

Ask @BarackObama to support #patriotact reform! http://act.ly/1fp Please RT You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the #patriotact at @BORDC: http://bit.ly/8Pzd4o You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the #patriotact at @Change: http://bit.ly/7T02BS You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the #patriotact at @care2: http://bit.ly/7ctiyd
Tuesday December 1, 200912:27HarryWaisbren
12:27
HarryWaisbren:
Amy and I will be discussing media work Friday

Amy: radio shows int he wroks
Tuesday December 1, 200912:27HarryWaisbren
12:30
HarryWaisbren:
Next tuesday call to coordinate media/legislator outreach?

Mark: fine with me, anxious to participate

Jim Burrows: don't slow down efforts in the meantime

Harry: lot of suggestd tweets, but completely agree, why we're doing Thurdsay. Open to other non-twitter ideas as well.
Tuesday December 1, 200912:30HarryWaisbren
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Jim Babka:
oh, i didn't know my Tweet would show up here. Cool. Is it the hashtag that brought my Tweet here?
Tuesday December 1, 200912:30Jim Babka
12:30
HarryWaisbren:
Jim Burrows: list of potential hashtags other than #patriotact
Tuesday December 1, 200912:30HarryWaisbren
12:31
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Jim Babka:
hashtags other than Patriot #tlot, #c4l -- Top Libertarians on Twitter and Campaign For Liberty (Ron Paul's group)
Tuesday December 1, 200912:31Jim Babka
12:31
HarryWaisbren:
it is Jim, that's how we organize the tweetchat

Jon: worth organizing the privacy hashtag. Lot of privacy related people hang out. Hitting up more often.

Jon: worth setting up brainstorming just on email lists, encouraging poeple to discuss via email and moderating/letting discussions through could start some conversations too. Conversations on blog therad, brainstorming outreach, blogging as we do it to elt people know it's happening.
Tuesday December 1, 200912:31HarryWaisbren
12:32
HarryWaisbren:
Mark: I agree, amazed in the negative. Sent out our stuff to GFR lists on OFA, and there is a constitutioanl group and others that I regularly communicate with, gotten 2 people fed back from those sources now.
Tuesday December 1, 200912:32HarryWaisbren
12:33
HarryWaisbren:
Completely agree about engaging libertarian/conservative hashtags much more Jim!

We have typically been sending out tweets from @GetFISARight to #patriotact and relying on others to RT to other tags. We can coordinate it more, and have more concrete outreach to these groups as well.
Tuesday December 1, 200912:33HarryWaisbren
12:34
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: shortlist of targeting just one or two bloggers/reporters and going to wrok on them?

Harry: moving on to media discussion about who we can target?
Tuesday December 1, 200912:34HarryWaisbren
12:35
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[Comment From Amy Ringenbach Amy Ringenbach:]
Mark, here's the link to the media list Jon and Harry culled from last year's Letter roll-out: http://get-fisa-right.wetpaint.com/page/Media+Contact+List
Tuesday December 1, 200912:35Amy Ringenbach
12:35
HarryWaisbren:
Jim: only a handful of people who have been concenred about civil liberties of late. Even amongst progressive bloggers and commentators.

Jim: could get Greenwald to atlk about it, but talks about nothing but civil liberties. Would love to get Keith/Rachel, Amy Goodman
Tuesday December 1, 200912:35HarryWaisbren
12:38
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: Chris Bowers on open left.

Harry: not much otureach yet, but preparing. If we engage Specter/Sestak issue is when we get a lot of traction tehre too.

Amy: have made initial entreaties to Specter/Sestak, haven't persued. Waiting to 1,000. Can if that's what we wish.
Tuesday December 1, 200912:38HarryWaisbren
12:39
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: I can see both ways, trying to do more organic growth on numbers before outreach. Do we do someting else to get a surge?

harry: tweetchats designed to do that

Jon: low key outreach for people to write about tweetchat? Techpresident would be great ot hit on that, either Nancy or Micah.
Tuesday December 1, 200912:39HarryWaisbren
12:39
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: worht targeting Ari Melber, real busy on climate change. Maybe ask him for suggestions on who to hit.
Tuesday December 1, 200912:39HarryWaisbren
12:40
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: Harry, contact TechPresident folk, CC me, can also jump in and ask for other suggestions. Trying ot break logjam, get momentum, ask for help in terms of suggestions.
Tuesday December 1, 200912:40HarryWaisbren
12:40
HarryWaisbren:
Mark: if we had a headline of "somebody's life was ruined today because of a NSL" that is the kind of thing I believe would get a lot of media attention. Can put it into a call for action.
Tuesday December 1, 200912:40HarryWaisbren
12:42
HarryWaisbren:
Amy: I've been serious about that, not sure who in our circle is a repisotory for htat. If you get NSL letter, you can't talk about htat.

Harry: maybe time to try to engage Iraq Veterans Against the War. Know they are breakign the law, engaging in civil disobedience already.
Tuesday December 1, 200912:42HarryWaisbren
12:43
HarryWaisbren:
Mark: some headline, doesn't ned to be a NSL. Something tnagible will attract attention.
Tuesday December 1, 200912:43HarryWaisbren
12:44
HarryWaisbren:
Mark: we have to do that, no matter what. It's necessary, engine of hte thing. It just ocurred to me, maybe during his Cato conference there woudl be some anecdotal discussion, do you think
Tuesday December 1, 200912:44HarryWaisbren
12:44
HarryWaisbren:
Jim Burrows: should be watching Cato thing for anything that's a hook for this
Tuesday December 1, 200912:44HarryWaisbren
12:45
HarryWaisbren:
Maybe i-spy video Jon talked about?

No matter what, need to make this more tangible to people
Tuesday December 1, 200912:45HarryWaisbren
12:45
HarryWaisbren:
Mark: lots of signs in US, every couple of miles, report suspicious behavior. All over.
Tuesday December 1, 200912:45HarryWaisbren
12:47
HarryWaisbren:
Amy: redux of Tom Ridge yellow orange color coded charts
Tuesday December 1, 200912:47HarryWaisbren
12:48
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: interesting, in SC, talking to Mom's freinds, not political. hate flying, demeaning. Someone else going to different grocery store w/out frequent buyer cards.

Jon: people feel helpless, don't know what they can do.
Tuesday December 1, 200912:48HarryWaisbren
12:48
HarryWaisbren:
Mark: one anecdote we can get attention of media, get mroe people on teh social netwroks
Tuesday December 1, 200912:48HarryWaisbren
12:50
HarryWaisbren:
Not necessarilya bout 1 anecdote, bigger, about getting poeple to undresatnd this affecst their day to day life and what they can do about it.

Jon: good topic to engage poeple on email lists and FB group, asking if there are ways this is affecting your day to day life or anyone you know's day to day life

Jon: seen a few tweets about how bank account frozen by patriotact activity
Tuesday December 1, 200912:50HarryWaisbren
12:51
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: have favorited a few things of people saying these things. Idk if htey are patriot act related or not, have to dig in, but wondering if htere is more going on, this low level of frustration.

Jon: rather than look for big killer anecdotes, worth highlighting low level annoynace.
Tuesday December 1, 200912:51HarryWaisbren
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Amy Ringenbach:
What I can do, as I continue to roll this out to progressive groups via email, is to invite folks to share how they have been affected..
Tuesday December 1, 200912:51Amy Ringenbach
12:51
HarryWaisbren:
Mark: after call I'll post on various OFA lists askign that exact question. Outstanding idea.

Jon: put up a blog post on, fowrad to privacy coalition, ask their members for different way of thinking.
Tuesday December 1, 200912:51HarryWaisbren
12:53
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: massachusetts could be a great way to engage people on the email lists

Jim Burrows: i'm from MA
Tuesday December 1, 200912:53HarryWaisbren
12:54
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: I can get something up on FB.

harry: sent last message right after tweetchat of open letter

Jon: event for Cato, After that good time for another email

Harry: can work together, one engaging conversation other is starting
Tuesday December 1, 200912:54HarryWaisbren
12:54
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: great suggestion Jim, looking around at Sestak/specter, MA, where else we can find these local things and build local interest.
Tuesday December 1, 200912:54HarryWaisbren
12:56
HarryWaisbren:
Jim: mentioned Greenwald, how to engage. On his list of blogs he reads, if we get stuff into them that might be one thing. 2nd hting is above that is "open salon", worth someone trying to write a salon article on civil liberites/patriot act, signing this open letter to Obama, so someone is saying something in his neighborhood.

Harry: key is convincing him to link/promote us rather than being aware
Tuesday December 1, 200912:56HarryWaisbren
12:57
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korkie:
Sorry ..... I have to run. I'll catch up on the write-up. Let me know if there is somethings specific you want me to do.
Tuesday December 1, 200912:57korkie
12:58
HarryWaisbren:
Take care Korkie!

Jon: we can try picking osmeone and just really targeting them combined iwth twitter/email stuff. Can't hurt, and as we pitch to techpresident.

harry: question of when and how we pressure them to engage. After TP?

Jon: chicken/egg question

Harry: this tuesady is backstop, Who and how to engage with the poeple power we'll be bringing
Tuesday December 1, 200912:58HarryWaisbren
12:58
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: alert your personal RT/emails that we'll be asking for help Tuesday. Details TBD, way of magnifying our strength
Tuesday December 1, 200912:58HarryWaisbren
12:59
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Jim Babka:
I'll be dropping. Thanks for the meeting. Good job.
Tuesday December 1, 200912:59Jim Babka
1:00
HarryWaisbren:
Ask @BarackObama to support #patriotact reform! http://act.ly/1fp Please RT You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the #patriotact at @BORDC: http://bit.ly/8Pzd4o You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the #patriotact at @Change: http://bit.ly/7T02BS You can sign our Open Letter to @BarackObama to fix the #patriotact at @care2: http://bit.ly/7ctiyd
Tuesday December 1, 20091:00HarryWaisbren
1:00
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Amy Ringenbach:
(just tweeted) @GFRoutreach @GetFISARight BOSTON:Capuano says Coakley defended #PatriotAct ! #p2 @BORDC: http://bit.ly/8Pzd4o" (http://twitthis.com/9pbn95)
Tuesday December 1, 20091:00Amy Ringenbach
1:00
Twitter
BleuZ00m:
@GFRoutreach @GetFISARight BOSTON:Capuano says Coakley defended #patriotact ! #p2 @BORDC: http://bit.ly/8Pzd4o" (http://twitthis.com/9pbn95)
Tuesday December 1, 20091:00BleuZ00m
1:02
HarryWaisbren:
Jon: couple more action items

1. blog thread/email/FB on how you personally been affected. Mark on OFA, I'll do FB. Harry will do blog.

Amy: i'll put heat up on Sestak/Specter, one radio guy intersted in getting Arlen in on this. Might jsut happen.

Jon: Amy, anything we can do to help you, this seems like our most promisnig short term area now.

Amy: at this point no. Let me make more entreaties. I know two of his IT guys and several of his campaign people.
Tuesday December 1, 20091:02HarryWaisbren
1:04
HarryWaisbren:
Great call everyone! Will leave this chat room open a while longer for any brainstorming that poeple wish to do inside.
Tuesday December 1, 20091:04HarryWaisbren



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